Interview Transcript - Maxwell 2025.07.24-cft (Redacted) (1).pdf

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United States Department of Justice
INTERVIEW OF: GHISLAINE MAXWELL
DATE: July 24, 2025
APPEARANCES:
For the United States:
Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General
Diego Pestana, Acting Associate Deputy
Attorney General
Spencer Horn, FBI Special Agent
Mark Beard, Deputy U.S. Marshal
For Ghislaine Maxwell:
David Markus
Leah Saffian
Melissa Madrigal

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           TODD BLANCHE:  I am going to ask everybody
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to put their name on the record here.
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           SPENCER HORN:  Good morning.  My name is
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Assistant Special Agent in Charge, Spencer Horn of
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FBI, New York.
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           Today we're doing a proffer of
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Ms. Maxwell.  The date is July 24th and the time is
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10:12 a.m.  This interview is being recorded.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  And my name is Todd
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Blanche.  I'm the Deputy Attorney General.  And
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before we start formally asking questions of
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Ms. Maxwell, I'm going to put on the record everybody
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that's in this room, in addition to me, starting with
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you, Diego.
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           DIEGO PESTANA:  Diego Pestana, Associate
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Deputy Attorney General.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  And then you heard from
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Special Agent in Charge Horn.  Mark Beard from the
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United States Marshal Service is here as well.
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           And then David.
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           DAVID MARKUS:  Yes.  This is David Oscar
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Markus, and I'm counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell.
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           LEAH SAFFIAN:  My name is Leah Saffian and
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I'm counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell.
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           MELISSA MADRIGAL:  My name is
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Melissa Madrigal and I'm counsel for Ghislaine
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Maxwell.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Go ahead.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And I'm -- I'm
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Ghislaine Maxwell.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Good morning, Ms. Maxwell.
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How are you?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Good morning,
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Mr. Blanche.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Good.  Okay.  So before we
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started recording, we met for a few minutes.  I
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introduced myself and we -- we've chatted and now
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I've told you that we were going on the record.  And
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before we start asking questions, I know that you've
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been given, by your lawyer, a copy of what's called a
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proffer agreement.
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           And I just want to spend two minutes
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making sure that you ...

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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I did.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  All right.  So I've
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already signed it, as has Special Agent Horn --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- and Mr. Markus signed it
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as well.  So you got a pen, please sign it --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Right here?
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- right where it says
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"client." Yes.
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           And I will provide a copy of this to -- to
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your lawyer so you guys have it.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Thank you.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay, thank you.
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           So Ms. Maxwell, about a week and a half
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ago or two weeks ago --
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           SPENCER HORN:  Can you see the light
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blinking on there?  On the Sony?  Yeah, there it is.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay. We're just confirming
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that it works and it does.
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           Ms. Maxwell, I guess about a week and a
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half or two weeks ago, Mr. Markus reached out to me
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and said that -- that you wanted to speak with
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somebody from the government about, not only your
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case, but about everything that's been in the media
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and that's been publicized about Mr. Epstein in your
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case.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That's --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Did he --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That's true and I did
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speak to him and I did ask him if -- oh, and did tell
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him that I would be very keen to talk to anyone,
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because no one from the government, at any time, ever
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in the -- since the inception of the case, so dating
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back to the early 2000s, has ever spoken to me, and
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indeed, I believe ever reached out to me at any time
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to even speak to me. And that includes up to when I
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was indicted and prosecuted.
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           I believe that -- or I understand, I
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should say, rather, that my attorneys, at the time,
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did tell the government that I wanted to speak to
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them, because I was very keen to meet with anyon...

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that he also very much liked Ivana, because she was
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also from Czechoslovakia where my dad was from.
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           So I don't -- I don't remember if I did
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meet him or not in 1990 with my dad, but I knew that
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that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  And this was before you
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met --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  This was before I met
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Mr. Epstein.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- Mr. Epstein?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay. All right.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I was already going
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backwards and forwards in America.  And then in April
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of 1991, I came to New York, but, I can't remember
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for what reason -- what business reason, but there
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was a business reason -- something to do with my dad
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at that time.
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           And a girlfriend of mine who -- an
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American, told me I -- I -- I had broken up with my
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long -- I'd been engaged, getting my -- the very
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long-term boyfriend and we'd broken up.
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           And she said, I've got -- you know, as
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your girlfriends do, I've got a guy for you to meet.
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And I was like, who is it?  And she goes, it's --
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he's been dating my sister.  You'll love him.  He's
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looking for a wife.  I'm edging towards 30.  I don't
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need to tell you guys, That's a very important moment
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for a girl to, like, think about important things.
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And sure, I'd be happy to meet him.
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           And so sometime in 1991 now.  We are in
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1991, I met him at his offices in -- on Madison
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Garden.  And I think the most memorable thing I can
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think about that is he was wearing a tie, which he
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didn't often do.  It had a giant, seemed like a
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ketchup stain on it.  So I was like, wow, okay. And
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that was how we met.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Was your meeting at his
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office for you to meet him just personally or were
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you -- were you there for --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I...

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           Now he certainly, I have no formal
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knowledge of anything specifically that he did in
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that thing, but if you're asking me if I thought that
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he did help people, the answer would be yes, I did.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Did your father and Mr.
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Epstein have a business relationship over the years?
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I know we're maybe jumping around a little bit.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  They never met.  So --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  As far as you know, they
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never even met?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No. I -- I--
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- or you know they never
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met?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I know they never met.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Well, how do you know they
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never met?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  They -- just
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categorically know they never met.  Well, because
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after, in 1991, before my father died, he asked me if
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I'd met anybody interesting or whatever, you know,
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because I was still trying not to be sucked back into
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the family business.
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           And I told him that I had met Mr. Epstein.
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And the reason why I shared that I'd met Mr. Epstein,
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because I believed, at that time, that Epstein worked
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for Bear Stearns.  And Bear Stearns was one of our
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banks.  And I knew that my father was friendly with
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both Jimmy Cayne and with Ace Greenberg.
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           So my dad came -- was actually in
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New York, I think.  If I remem- -- I may -- I don't
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think I had this conversation on the phone, but I --
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I honestly we're talking 30 years ago, so I'm not
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sure.
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           But if I -- I maybe I told him this
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verbatim, because it happened -- I know that what my
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dad did, whether I saw it or whether I -- he did it
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and told me later I -- that I don't remember.
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           But he called both Jimmy Cayne and Ace
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Greenberg to ask if -- what sort of guy he was and
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was he even allowed to -- because (indiscernible)
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so . . .
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           TODD BLANCHE:  No, that's helpful.
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Thank you.
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           So -- okay.  So you're -- you're now in
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the '90s and you're friends with Mr. Epstein.  Your
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house -- decorating the house or the apartment.
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           What -- what happens with your
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relationship?  Again, I know we're talking about a
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35-year time period or whatever, but to the extent
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you can kind of, at a very high level, talk about it.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Listen, I think just
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full disclosure is the best way to go at this point.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So in 1992, I slept
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with him one time and I was like, whoa, that's it.
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We're going to be dating, because that's how I
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thought.  And -- and I kind of thought of myself in
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that moment.  Like, because you, I felt if you slept
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with someone, that you were then dating them.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That's the world I
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came from.  But that really was -- well, that's how I
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thought.  And -- but we didn't sleep together again
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for, I don't know, really a significant period of
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time.  And when I say --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Like years or?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't know if it was
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a year.  I don't -- it feels that feels long, but
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maybe nine months, I mean, a long time.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And I just want to go
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back to -- I had found a house for him to rent in
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New York, because he had asked me -- I had been
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looking at one for my father, and I found one, which
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was a former Iranian embassy, I think it was.  I
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think it belonged to the Iranians, or the Iraqis or
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someone.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And I didn't know that
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he had any money.  It was like, I want to say it was
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$12,000 a month, which to me seemed like a fortune.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Heart condition.
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           DAVID MARKUS:  Heart condition.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  A heart condition.  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Which meant that he
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didn't have intercourse a lot, which suited me fine,
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because I actually do have a medical condition, which
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precludes me having a lot of intercourse.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  So what -- what was your
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understanding of his heart condition and why that
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prevented him from having intercourse regularly?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't know.  I mean,
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he liked other forms of sexual activities.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Well, let's come back.
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           We're going to obviously spend some
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time -- a lot of time on the actual conduct he was
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accused of.  So we'll --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- we'll -- we'll come back
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to that.  So pick up where you -- where you were
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talking about you traveling around with him, he
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rented the New York, former Iranian House --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Iranian, there you go.
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Yeah.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- until around '96.  At
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that time, you -- I believe you said that he was
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basically your life, like you were with him pretty
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regularly.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, I -- no.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I never was with
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him regularly.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That is one of those
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misnomers.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I mean, at the
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beginning I did see more of him, but I worked in his
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office.  So I would go to the office and I would see
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him, and I would count in my head when I would see
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him.  I would count that I would -- that would be a
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day that I would see him.  But I didn't -- I never,
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ever stayed with him.
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he had and each new project.  So I believe the first
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thing that he purchased after was the ranch in
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New Mexico.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And so what he had
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tasked me with up until that, and I think that was
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purchased in '94, if I'm right.  So he had tasked me,
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one of the things that we did was visit, in my mind,
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I say every state, but it wouldn't have been every
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state, but many states, to go look at real estate
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property.
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           And so I know we went to Montana.  I know
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we went to Utah and it was -- it was to go look at
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real estate.  It was fun, to be honest.
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New Mexico and he just loved New Mexico.  And then I
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don't remember how the ranch happened.  I don't
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remember that now, it's lost.  And then he ended up
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buying the ranch.
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           And I think, if I'm right, it came from --
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well, the Kings who may have been the governor, I --
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you know, bought the ranch.  And then I had to deal
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with that.  Dealing with that was the extent of it.
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           The way that I thought of myself, or the
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way that I think is the best way to explain how I
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view my role, was as a general manager.  Because each
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property, to me was like a -- a hotel.
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           So the ranch was very challenging, because
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not only that, but it had BLM land, so to help
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maintain your BLM, you have to have cattle and I love
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animals.
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           And so the first thing, horses.  And so I
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wanted it, if you're going to have a ranch, I like
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authenticity.  And so I don't think you should have a
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ranch if you're not going to have the things that
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make it special.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  So were you -- were you
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paid by him along the way --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- during this time?
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came to any of us, at any time, ever.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So -- so when you
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are talking about your life with Mr. Epstein in the
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'90s, you -- you're -- you're not -- you -- you're
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very different financially.  You -- you're very
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different financially positioned than he is --
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Absolutely.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- meaning he's giving you
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money, he's paying for your -- when you fly, he -- I
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assume pays for your flights.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Okay.  So you -- you
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-- I interrupted you when you were saying how you
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were functioning as a general manager.  You helped
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with the New Mexico ranch.
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           So did -- did your role with him continue
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like that for many years or for how long?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I continued -- in
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2000 -- well, in -- by 1999, our relationship had
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foundered.  In --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Why?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I -- well, two
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reasons:  We were never sleeping together again.  So
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we stopped having sexual relations in 1999.  Not full
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sex.  Sorry, just to be clear.  Didn't mean that we
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didn't still share a bed bedroom sometimes or
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whatever.  He had another girlfriend.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  He had what?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Other girlfriends.  I
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definitively knew that it was over after 9/11,
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actually, because we were both in New York and I
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don't know, were you in New York on 9/11?  I mean,
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9/11 ...
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           And it was a scary time if you were in New
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York.  You didn't know, I didn't know, nobody knew
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what was going on.  And he was in 71st Street and I
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was in 65th Street, my house.
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           And he wouldn't see me at all.  Asked me,
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his mum, who I'm very close to, who's in hospital at
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Lennox Hill, just asked me to look after her.  And
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you had flown over with -- so who was on the plane
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for that trip?  I don't mean everybody.
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           When you said, so Mr. Epstein was on the
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plane?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  You were on the plane?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Who else, that you can
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remember?  I'm not, you know, you only remember what
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you remember.
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           DAVID MARKUS:  Was President Clinton on
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the plane?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Clinton.  He would've
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-- he would've had his guy, Doug Vance, maybe Jason
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Cooper, maybe the two.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  And you -- and so why --
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so -- so how do you meet -- so -- so why did you say
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that's when you met him and that you met him through
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Clinton?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, it was a -- I
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don't think Ted would've been there, had it not been
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a -- it was a President Clinton dinner and Ted came
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to be with President Clinton --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  I see.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Not to be with
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Mr. Epstein.  Does that make sense?
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yes.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That's why I say that.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So you're -- you're,
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so in the time that you're dating, that you're with
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him to 2009, are you still working for Mr. Epstein
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during that time?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So his -- so it'd be
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true to say that Jeffrey tried very hard, he tried
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very hard to -- to keep me to working for him,
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because this is a complex operator.
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           I'm not talking about anything untoward,
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just the sheer size of the projects.  I'm talking the
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construction projects, the houses, the staff.  It's
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a -- it's a really significant job.  And I ran all
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the properties, the staff in the properties, the
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management of the properties that -- and all the
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construction.
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another individual from -- with Ted from 2003 till
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2009 or '10.  At what point in that whole period is
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there like more of a break, where you're no longer
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acting as his general manager?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I -- I wanted to
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have a full break when I started dating Ted.  And he
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was clever.  I -- I -- I suppose it would be true to
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say that I sort of viewed Mr. Epstein, at that point,
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as sort of family, if you will.  Like someone I could
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rely on.
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           And I should have had more confidence in
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myself.  I can see that now.  But at the time, given
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everything that had happened in my life, I thought
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that it would -- and I saw how he was with other
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people like Eva, who seemed to be very comfortable
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with him, and I thought this would be -- and he
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always said, I was like family.
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           So he worked hard to make -- maintain a
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relationship with me.  He was generous with me.  He
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let me use the plane, for instance, which was very
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generous, he would check in with my mum.  He did
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things that were meaningful to me in that time.
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           And then, it may still not have worked,
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but that his -- his mother, Paula, had been in a very
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serious car crash.  And I -- she had become sort of
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like a -- a surrogate mother for me, sort of, because
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my mum wasn't there.  I could -- I could look after
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her the way that I would -- sorry.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  It's all right.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  The way that I
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would've liked to look after my own mum.  So I became
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very close to his mother.
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           And she had been in a car crash and in
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2004, I believe it -- it may have been 2005, I -- I
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don't recall exactly.  She took a -- her health took
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a serious decline.  And Epstein called me and asked
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me if I could look after her.  And by looking after
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government, either state or federal, subpoena your
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bank records or subpoena anything from your financial
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life, during that time?  During the -- that time?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.  Not as far as I'm
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aware.  Now, if they did, I don't know it and I have
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-- I have no idea about that, to be honest.  But I'm
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-- I'm not aware of it and I would say no, but maybe
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you guys do things that I don't know.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  So how did -- how did you
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learn of that case?  When Mr. Epstein was arrested,
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or did you know that something was happening before
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then?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  The -- the first thing
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I knew was he had told me he was deciding to
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redecorate the house in Palm Beach.  It didn't
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surprise me, it was like a rolling situation.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  And, but by that time are
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you doing -- are you -- like he tells you because he
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wants your help or your relationship changed by this
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time where you were no longer kind of acting his --
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as his general manager?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.  I was -- I was
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still around.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I wasn't gone.  I was
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with Ted.  I was traveling.  I wasn't daily -- if you
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would ask me where he was in any given time, I'm not
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sure I would've known then.  I mean, it was, I -- I
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felt like I suppose the relationship moved into sort
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of like a long-term friend-family, you know, like --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- like I felt he had
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with Eva, if I'm honest.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  Okay.  So -- so he
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says to you he's going to redecorate the Palm Beach
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house.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He -- he asked me
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specifically which decorator he thinks I -- he should
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use, because I had a lot of contacts with decorators
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I didn't -- I
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didn't -- I didn't -- I'm not sure even what I
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thought.  I was like, that's weird.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  -- so after he -- after you
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find out about it, what happens with your
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relationship with him?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I asked him.  I asked
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him what was going on --
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- and he said, I --
11
I -- not to worry.  Nothing, nothing, taking care.
12
Don't worry about it (indiscernible) and then it all
13
went quiet.  I didn't -- he didn't say, he didn't
14
share.  I wasn't part of it at all.  I was off with
15
Ted and I really just --
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did he tell you -- well,
17
why don't we come back to more specifics around that
18
time period in a few minutes --
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.
20
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- I want to just finish
21
this opening part.
22
           So that case goes on, ultimately it ends.
23
What -- what -- what was your relationship like with
24
him during that case, when he goes, you know, when
25
he -- when he was sentenced.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He asked -- he -- he
2
-- he told me, he said, "Listen.  I'm going to jail."
3
I was like, "Okay."  And he goes, "I would like you
4
to stay on board to manage the properties, the
5
animals, this and that, and just stay put and I'll
6
continue to pay you.  In case there's any emergency,
7
I don't trust anyone."  And I was like, "Okay."
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  Well, when you said
9
continue to pay, had he con--- has he --
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He had never stopped
11
paying me.
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  He never stopped paying
13
you.  So even when your relationship changes, you're
14
getting -- does the amount increase from the $25,000
15
or so a year from the beginning?  Like how much are
16
you getting paid yearly?
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWEL...

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you would've had to find someone who was trilingual
2
to -- and that he trusted --
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you --
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- to manage, not
5
steal from him.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you -- so when he gets
7
out of jail, between that time 2009 or '10, and 2019,
8
what's your relationship like with -- with
9
Mr. Epstein?
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Almost nonexistent.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  Why?
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I -- I had just moved
13
on and I just didn't want to have anything to -- I
14
didn't want the drama.  I didn't want to be
15
associated with ...
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  So do you recall -- when
17
you say "almost non-existent," does that mean --
18
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  It doesn't mean it --
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- was it some phone calls,
20
some visits --
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I definitely.
22
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- some trips, or what does
23
it mean?
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I -- I -- I don't -- I
25
don't think there were any trips.  Oh, I don't -- I
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don't think so.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Where were you living
3
during that time period?  Or was it --
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Which time period?
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Between 2009, '10 and 2019?
6
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I was back in
7
New York.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So you had no -- so
9
when you -- so -- so your -- you had phone calls with
10
him on occasion?
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.  Well, I
12
certainly did when it -- whenever there was any legal
13
drama or any like, serious press attention, I always
14
called him to try and find out what was going on.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Okay.  And then --
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And I did email him at
17
that time for those types of details.  It was like,
18
what do I do?  What, I mean, I was like ...
19
        ...

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stunned when I was arrested.  But maybe stunned is
2
too big a word, but surprised.  I certainly was.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So let's -- okay.
4
So that's -- that's -- was a long description of --
5
of what was a very long life and that was very
6
helpful.  So I want to go back and talk more
7
specifically now about particular areas, and, but
8
that was a -- a very helpful kind of foundation
9
for -- for us.
10
           The first -- the first thing I want to
11
talk about, you talked about earlier on, about
12
Mr. Epstein's financial success.  What -- you know,
13
do you know how he -- when you first meet him, at
14
some point you say, "I got this place for you to
15
rent, you can't afford it."  And he laughs at you and
16
says, "Yes.  I can."
17
           What did you learn about his wealth and
18
how he was -- and how he accumulated his money?
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I can tell you what he
20
told me.
21
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yes.
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I -- I know that he
23
was hired from working at a private school whose name
24
eludes me at this point.
25
           LEAH SAFFIAN:  Dalton.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Dalton.  He was
2
working at Dalton, he was a math teacher.  And he
3
met, I think it was Ace, I'm not sure.  He met
4
someone from Bear who hired him, because he was very
5
good at math.  And I believe that he then worked on
6
creating a trading of, oh, my gosh.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  Just describe it.  It's
8
okay.  Go ahead.
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He came -- came up
10
with some new type of trading system.  Not -- not a
11
system so much, but as a -- as a -- as a --as
12
vehicle.  A trading vehicle.
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm just escaping
15
right now.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  And this is while -- while
17
he was working at -- at Bear Stearns?
18
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL: ...

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hypothetical --
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  The -- the -- please,
3
that was completely hypothetical.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- but that -- but that
5
would involve like, so two kind of drug cartels
6
stealing from each other.
7
           Practically speaking, did -- he was a --
8
more of a businessman, correct?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So here's how I think
10
that started, is that he had a girlfriend.  It was
11
always you -- you -- always to the girls.  I guess
12
there was a girl whose name will come back to me,
13
maybe not, whilst we're here, but I don't know,
14
maybe.  There's a woman --
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- there's always a
17
woman.  And he -- she was the daughter of a
18
billionaire, for instance.  And that billionaire,
19
whoever his --whatever his name was, had had some
20
money stolen.  And for some reason this woman
21
introduced Jeffrey, and Jeffrey, I think that's how
22
that business started.  That's what I remember.
23
           TODD BLANCHE:  And is that something he
24
told you about or something that happened while you
25
knew him?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.  Something he told
2
me before I met him.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  And so when you meet him
4
and -- and once you're part of his life in the early
5
to mid '90s, what is he doing to make money that you
6
see?  He -- does he have clients?  Does he have rich
7
clients?  Does he have famous clients?  And -- and
8
how -- and what -- if he does have clients, what
9
service is he providing them?
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He does have -- well,
11
obviously there's the one very famous client that
12
everybody talks about, which is Les Wexner.  That was
13
a very important client to him.  And he -- I think
14
it's probably helpful to describe what I imagine --
15
what I imagine, know -- would I know to be true about
16
what he managed for Les.  And the...

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heard him talk to people like that.  I couldn't --
2
sorry.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  No -- no.  Go ahead.
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did -- was there -- did --
6
did he give -- did Mr. Wexner gift a property in
7
New York to Mr. Epstein?
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So we're talking about
9
71st Street.  So I don't know what the business deal
10
was, because, again, I'm not part of his business
11
thing, but I think what happened would be that, let's
12
say Les owed him in, theoretically, for his services,
13
$100 million or whatever it was.  He could have
14
traded that against the property.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  But do you know that that
16
happened or that's -- are you -- are you kind of --
17
do you remember whether there was conversations about
18
that or are you just thinking that could be one way
19
that it happened?
20
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm not sure.  And I'm
21
not trying to be -- I just don't remember if that's
22
something I know or if that's something that I
23
remember, or if it's something that I subsequently
24
know.  I believe -- I believe that to be what
25
happened, but I don't want to tell you that I have --
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Does that make sense?
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did Mr. Wexner and
4
Mr. Epstein -- are you aware of they -- of their
5
falling out that they ultimately had?
6
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I think -- I wasn't
7
there and I don't know how it happened.  I only know
8
what Les has said in the press.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  So you only know about
10
their, you know, their falling out or whatever you
11
want to call it, from what you've kind of read, not
12
from any firsthand knowledge?  You did -- you weren't
13
there, you weren't part of that?
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Correct.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know somebody named
16
Steven H...

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money, I wasn't there.  I mean, he -- I really had a
2
separate life.  We really had separate lives --
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- except where they
5
synced.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  But it wasn't from --
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  It wasn't from me.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- from you?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.  It was not.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  And what's your
11
understanding of what Mr. Epstein did for
12
Ms. Johnson?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Same as what he did
14
for Wexner.  And when I -- and you have to
15
understand, it -- it went down to, in tiny details.
16
So I remember this -- I remember, this is an actual
17
memory, that he would make the contracts for the
18
maids, for the people who worked in their homes.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  So he would assist his
20
clients, at times, with -- you're saying with even
21
small things like contractual relations with --
22
with --
23
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He said no detail was
24
too small, because everything that affected how they
25
lived and how they managed their life, was something
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that he felt he was -- if they want, he would be
2
responsible for, to make sure that the contract -- so
3
that if you had to fire someone, it wouldn't come
4
back and sue you or if that -- that sort of ...
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So Mr. Black,
6
Mr. Werner [sic] -- Ms. Johnson.  Who else?
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  What's the name of the
8
woman from Ohio (inaudible).
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  Know someone named
10
Jes Staley.
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yeah.  I do know Jes.
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  Who's that?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He was at Morgan
14
Stanley and at Barclays.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  What do -- do you know
16
whether he and Mr. Epstein had a relationship?
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, not a -- not a...

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watch for almost two years, which meant that they
2
woke me up every 15 minutes for the entire time.  And
3
it's -- it really did affect my ability to ...
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  Understand.
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I'm not --
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  So you've taken some notes
9
in anticipation --
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I just made some names
11
in -- in advance for this --
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  Okay.  So go ahead.
13
So --
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- and you're happy to
15
look at them as well, if you want.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  No.  Go -- go ahead.
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.  Oh, well, funny
18
you say, first two names.  One is Wexner, two is
19
Staley, three is Leon Black.
20
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Glenn Dubin was a
22
client.
23
           TODD BLANCHE:  Who's that?
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Eva Dubin's husband.
25
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  What was their, I
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mean, if you can -- do you know when -- about when
2
that relationship started?
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Whenever -- well,
4
wouldn't have been before they got married, for sure.
5
So if you're going to start -- you're going to date
6
that from wherever that was.
7
           And then Epstein was heavily involved with
8
Highbridge Capital and the financing or selling of
9
Highbridge to JP Morgan.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Go ahead.
11
Eva Dubin.  Yep.
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.  You're only
13
looking for clients, so, all right.  There's a
14
woman -- well he -- there's a woman in Ohio.  I just
15
can't think of her name, but it will -- I tried to
16
remember it yesterday and I can't.
17
           DAVID MARKUS:  So this is a good thing.
18
Like, you know, as you think of things, write it
19
down, and if they have any ...

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say that?
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, I -- let me
3
rephrase that.  If there was fraud, I never saw it.
4
What I saw or what I felt when I -- his -- I ran that
5
office.  I mean, ran.  I didn't -- I was responsible
6
for the staff.  People worked.  There were lawyers,
7
there were accountants.  I never heard him -- I never
8
-- wit- -- I never felt anything, I don't know, icky.
9
           DAVID MARKUS:  Did -- did you ever see him
10
blackmail a --
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Never.
12
           DAVID MARKUS:  -- a client?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.
14
           DAVID MARKUS:  Did you ever see him
15
blackmail a -- an -- a friend or an acquaintance?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Never.
17
           DAVID MARKUS:  Okay.
18
           TODD BLANCHE:  Well, so I think when folks
19
talk about block -- blackmail, and we can talk about
20
-- sorry about that.
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Sorry.
22
           TODD BLANCHE:  We can talk about that now.
23
There are a lot of allegations about him, which
24
we'll -- which we should talk about and we can do
25
that now.  And the fact that he abused young women.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Full stop.  Okay.  Which
3
means, the way that I'm defining abuse, as has been
4
widely reported, is that -- that he would cause young
5
women in high school to be recruited to come to his
6
house and give him massages.  And a part of -- and
7
the -- and the -- and as part of that, he would
8
sexually abuse them, okay?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  So I want to talk about
11
that.  But as it relates to blackmail, the question
12
is whether you're aware of any time, that any of the
13
individuals we're talking about, and we'll talk about
14
others, received massages from women who were under
15
18 or may have been under 18.
16
           And that whether there was any sex...

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doing.  Yes.  I didn't --
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  So --
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- I didn't hire any
4
electrician on the plane.  Okay.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- so unequivocally,
6
unequivocally from what you know, and you only know
7
what you know --
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I only know what I
9
know.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- but from what you know,
11
you do not believe a camera exists, or a video camera
12
or a camera that takes pictures, inside any of his
13
residences?
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Correct.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  So even the appropriate
16
cameras that you just talked about, which would be
17
kind of exterior security cameras, did you know
18
whether there was any cameras, that you're aware of,
19
inside any of the locations?
20
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Never, with one
21
exception.
22
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  What's the
23
exception?
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  The exception is
25
Palm Beach.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And the reason -- so
3
in Palm Beach, Epstein was having money stolen.  He
4
noticed money was being stolen from his briefcase,
5
call it his briefcase.  And he called in the
6
Palm Beach police and they, the Palm Beach police
7
installed cameras on where he kept his briefcase.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  Where was that?  Do you
9
remember?
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  At his desk in -- so
11
the house on the ground floor was -- he had a desk,
12
sort of in a corner.  There was that camera.  I think
13
there was another camera.  I think there were two or
14
maybe three cameras.  I believe only on the ground
15
floor, wherever he may have had -- maybe he had
16
another office in the cabana.  There may have been a
17
camera there.
18
           TODD BLANCHE:  When was this?  I'm not
19
looking for an exact date, but what time period are
20
you thinking about when you...

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told that video exists, like what we're talking
2
about, or photos were taken that -- that were
3
compromising?
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So in the -- in both
5
of those, I never received no pictures or anything
6
from the civil case.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  Uh-huh.
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  But in the criminal
9
case, I received videos of Epstein talking to women
10
and stuff like that.  I did get those.  I also saw
11
binders, photographs of women and (indiscernible).  I
12
never saw any, well, I don't know -- I don't know how
13
old some of these women were.  There were definitely
14
some of the victims from Palm Beach, the photographs
15
of them in -- in -- without clothing.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  And in that -- in those
17
photographs, were -- the victims that were
18
photographed, were there any of the people you've
19
talked about?  Like, were there men with the victims
20
or were they just photographs of the victims?
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  There was no men with
22
these pictures.  There was no client of his with
23
those pictures.  They would be standalone, for want
24
of a better word, like modeling shots.  If you
25
were -- if you -- if you were, I don't know.
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           DAVID MARKUS:  Pictures that Epstein had
2
with the girls, but not Epstein with the clients and
3
the girls.
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Correct.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you -- I understand you
6
said you got those in the discovery.  Did you know
7
those -- those pictures -- pictures like that
8
existed?
9
           So right now I'm talking about photographs
10
of victims or photographs of women that Mr. Epstein
11
had on his computer or wherever he had them.  Did you
12
know that those photos existed before you got them in
13
discovery?
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Some of them,
15
absolutely, because they were in his house.  Some of
16
these pictures were on his, you know, cr...

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talking in the '90s, I don't think he was there.
2
I -- there's that description.  I think that this,
3
what you were talking about is a later version.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  And --
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Does that -- is that?
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  No.  I understand that and
7
I do want to talk -- I'm not --
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So it's just I'm -- I
9
think you need to separate the periods of time --
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Sure.
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- because it --
12
this -- one of the things that was definitely missing
13
in my trial, and definitely missing from the
14
narrative, is this notion, this, everything happened
15
and he was always but -- no.  I don't -- I don't
16
believe that to be true.
17
           TODD BLANCHE:  So I mean, that --
18
that's -- that's fine.  And I do want to talk about
19
that.  I'm not -- I'm not pushing that away.  I'm
20
just putting it aside for a moment.
21
           What Mr. Epstein did and -- and, frankly,
22
what -- what you did, or are accused of doing, is one
23
thing that I -- that we'll talk about, but what --
24
right now what I want to understand is -- is whether
25
one of the ways that Mr. Epstein befriended his
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clients or -- or took care of them, or some would say
2
blackmail them, was by encouraging them to have -- to
3
interact with -- with women, underage or not.
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I think in the
5
'90s, he may have encouraged them, but these were
6
people who were in their 20s or 30s.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  So -- so.  Understand that.
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  May have -- so he
9
would have a masseuse, right?  And he did, male and
10
female, by the way, in the '90s, that's never been
11
discussed.  Both in yoga and everything, there were
12
men as well as women.
13
           And so if he would travel, and I can show
14
them to you, I highlighted them on the flight...

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           DAVID MARKUS:  Or the clients.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- or the clients
3
themselves?
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Never.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So -- so let's --
6
again, I want to stay -- and -- and coming back now
7
to what you were talking about a moment ago with
8
Mr. Epstein's kind of progression or -- or -- or
9
getting worse.  So just staying within the '90s.
10
           What role -- what did -- what role did you
11
have or what did you observe -- which are two
12
different issues, but both important -- with respect
13
to recruiting masseuses to come to either, I guess,
14
Palm Beach or to travel, or eventually New Mexico.
15
What role did you have in that?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He asked me to find
17
masseuses for him.
18
           TODD BLANCHE:  Say it again.
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He asked me if I could
20
find him masseuses.
21
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Like, as part of --
22
like you said, you were his general manager.  As part
23
of all your -- your duties, that was one of them?
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And I did do that.  So
25
the first person I believe that I introduced him to
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as a masseuse was somebody called 
.  She
2
was, I don't know, mid, late 20s.  Professional
3
masseuse.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  And was this something that
5
happened early on in your relationship or -- and
6
again, I know we're talking about the '90s, but are
7
we talking about early '90s or is this later on?
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So in terms of
9
massage, I am a -- I have a lot of injuries.  I do a
10
lot of dangerous sports and have had multiple serious
11
accidents, and walk without any lameness, because of
12
physical therapy and massage.  I've -- that to me is
13
a very -- it's medicinal for me.
14
           So Epstein, whatever his massage
15
situation, whatever -- he loved massage.  And if I
16
met somebody who I thought ...

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asking me, I believe started in the 2000s.
1
TODD BLANCHE: -- I appreciate.
2
TODD BLANCHE: In the 2000 time period?
2
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So then I think -- SO
3
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yeah. 2000.
3
she -- she takes up with the local drug dealer and
4
TODD BLANCHE: Why do you -- why do you
4
she becomes druggie, druggie. Like, you know, how
5
think --
5
druggies -- well, maybe you don't. I live with a lot
6
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: 2000.
6
in Tallahassee. They become even more unreliable
7
TODD BLANCHE: Like what -- what in your
7
than normal.
8
mind makes you think that that's the time that it
8
And at some point, she's now working
9
started?
9
somewhere else. He stopped seeing her, because he
10
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think because in
10
doesn't like people who do drugs. And I think that
11
December of 2001, he met
DOJ REDACTION
And I
11
not seeing her lasted five or six months. And in
12
think
DOJ REDACTION
was responsible for that in
12
that period of time, she got arrested for theft, and
13
its entirety.
13
she had a warrant out for her arrest.
14
And the reason I believe that, so this --
14
Now, this I've pieced together because
15
she -- she was a self-confessed having been sexually
15
this piece I didn't know. She then called Epstein
16
abused as a young girl, and was trained -- her words
16
to -- to have help avoiding the warrant for her
17
I'm quoting now, not mine, in all the arts of
17
arrest, and he sent her to Thailand to get a massage
18
whatever that is, the sex program by a man called Ron
18
therapy license. This is the bit that I guess. This
19
Eppinger, who was her pimp from when she was 14, I
19
is the bit that I extrapolated.
20
believe, or 15, I don't know.
20
In the period of time from when she came
21
And in her book describes him training her
21
back to when she left, he asked her to replace
22
to be what every man wants in all its manners,
22
herself as his masseuse or whatever -- whatever she
23
fellatio and everything else. I believ...

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they don't take off their clothes.  Basically
2
suggested they had to watch him masturbate.  Like the
3
things that have been publicly said about what he
4
did.
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm not --
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  For now I'm not -- I'm not
7
distinguishing adults or -- or -- or young or
8
underage women for that.  I'm saying abuse.
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm -- I'm going to
10
think that that would've been a habit.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm going to say that
13
the massage game was a habit.  And I think --
14
           DAVID MARKUS:  What does that mean?
15
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That means that I'm
16
sure that he didn't suddenly start having relations
17
with masseuses in 2002.
18
           DAVID MARKUS:  Okay.
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I am sure he must have
20
had relations with masseuses, who knows when.
21
           TODD BLANCHE:  But you're saying, as far
22
as you -- I -- I used the word abuse.  You're saying
23
that as far as you sit here today, you would describe
24
that more as consensual?  Meaning the masseuse did
25
those -- did this willingly?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I -- I saw him with
2
lots of masseuses.  I never saw a single masseuse
3
ever look unhappy or not come back or whatever.  So
4
based on my observation, I don't think that if you
5
are being raped, as now he's like this prolific -- I
6
just -- I just can't imagine why you would return.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  That's not what you
8
observed at the time?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Not what I observed at
10
the time, no.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  I want to -- we're -- we're
12
going to spend a little -- we're going to spend more
13
time on this issue, because I -- I think it's
14
important.  But just going back to kind of the -- the
15
question that I started with in this area, which is
16
that it ties into the blackm...

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           So with respect to just -- and we'll --
2
we'll take a break in a minute to get some food.  But
3
just with respect to Mr. -- with respect to the
4
individuals you just talked about.  So again, focus
5
on the '90s.
6
           And so the people that I'm talking about
7
right now, and we might add some names later.  So
8
we're talking about the -- the clients that he worked
9
with, which you've mentioned several of.  And I know
10
that that wasn't exhaustive, but you mentioned
11
several of them.
12
           And then the -- the kind of what -- what I
13
called famous friends, but the -- the prominent
14
individuals that were in his life in the '90s.
15
Did -- did -- does any stick out in your mind as
16
having received massages?  All of them.
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Henry Rosovsky
18
received a massage.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  And why do you -- why does
20
that stick out in your memory?
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Because I saw him in a
22
bathrobe at 71st Street, and he had received a
23
massage, he told me.
24
           TODD BLANCHE:  And do you know whether
25
that -- whether there was any -- whether the masseuse
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was naked during that massage?
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I wouldn't have any
3
idea.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether he --
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I doubt it.  He was
6
like in his 80s.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  Say it again.
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I doubt it.  He was
9
like in his 80s.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So -- but do you
11
know -- notwithstanding his age --
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Minsky, sorry.
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  Say that again.
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Minsky was another
15
person.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether, for
17
example, President Clinton ever received a massage?
18
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't believe he
19
did.
20
           ...

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it turned into the club, I went there and I was --
2
loved going there.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you -- did you go there
4
alone or with Mr. Epstein?
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Mostly alone.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know where --
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And the times I went
8
there it was for an event, maybe once or twice.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  And do you know whether
10
Mr. Epstein ever went there?
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I -- I believe he did,
12
but again, we really were -- he -- he didn't take me
13
with him all the time.  So he would go and -- oh,
14
right.  He never -- I never -- well, he did from time
15
to time, but he would go alone.  I think he would
16
maybe go himself to the spa.  I certainly did.
17
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you ever observe
18
President Trump receive a massage?
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Never.
20
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you ever observe -- you
21
said that you -- you were -- I mean, have you seen
22
the -- there's photographs, public photographs of
23
Mr. Epstein and President Trump together.
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
25
           TODD BLANCHE:  And there's photographs
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of -- I think you're -- you're in some of the
2
photographs --
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- as well.  Those all
5
appear to be social settings.
6
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you --
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That's -- that's my
9
memory.  They were social settings.  I don't know
10
Epstein's -- if he had -- whatever the nature of the
11
President's friendship, if you will, or however you
12
want to define that with Epstein, I was -- never
13
witnessed.
14
           I think they were friendly like people are
15
in social settings.  I don't -- I don't think they
16
were close friends or I certainly never witnessed the
17
President in any of -- I...

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of those -- some of the reporting, namely around
2
young masseuses or young women who would be present
3
and what you observed --
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- relating to them, and
6
then I'll ask questions around that.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So if I'm right, he
8
purchased the island in 1996 and he was friendly with
9
the owners.  And originally, we went to the island as
10
guests of the owners.  And then I guess at some point
11
the owners told him -- he -- they wanted to sell and
12
he decided to purchase it.
13
           So the island was very rustic.  I loved
14
it.  He, of course, had completely different ideas.
15
And I would say there was none of what you were
16
describing at that early period of time.
17
           So the frequency was -- was often.  We're
18
often on the island, because he loved it.  He really,
19
really loved it.  And we would, -- we would go all
20
the time.  Mostly all the early phase was based on
21
improvements that could be made on the island.
22
           Always going with new architects, new
23
designers, new construction people.  I'd say the
24
first two years, almost every trip, not every one,
25
but almost every trip contained some -- an individual
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who would be brought on board to have an opinion as
2
to how to -- I don't want to use the word "improve
3
the island," because I don't think you could improve
4
it, but to -- I can't think what the word would be.
5
To -- what's the word I'm looking for?  To develop
6
it.  Sorry.  That's the word.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Develop -- develop the
9
island.  That's the word I'm looking for.
10
           So -- so there were trips, constant trips
11
with that in mind.  And I would say now if we are
12
moving to the late '90s, '96, '97 I definitely
13
witnessed a progression in Mr. Epstein's behavior,
14
and a modification, if you ...

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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I can't say that.  I
2
might have --
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- I definitely might,
5
either both in the Gulfstream or in the --
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- in the -- I'm sure
8
I did, but it's not -- I can't --
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  That's fair.
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.  I'm absolutely
11
sure I did.  I must have, because, you know, he was
12
so obsessed of someone rubbing his feet or -- just --
13
when you ask me about massages, I want to be clear.
14
           I generally -- what I think of that is
15
somebody on a massage table, but other people might
16
think of it as something different.  You know, you
17
could have someone rubbing his feet or his shoulder.
18
I saw that all the time.  That I did.  But sep- --
19
that's separate from being on a massage table.
20
           TODD BLANCHE:  How -- again, I know we're
21
talking about a decade-long period, but during the
22
period we're talking about, in a seven-day week, how
23
often would Mr. Epstein get a massage?
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  In the '90s, when
25
we're talking, he would get one every day.  I think,
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as that time progressed, he would get one, maybe
2
twice a day.  I do want to say that there was maybe a
3
reason that things altered or morphed or progressed,
4
and it is maybe part of the reason, also, that I --
5
he and I, our relationship or have a, somebody wants
6
to call it altered.
7
           And he started doing testosterone and that
8
altered his character.  And I believe that started in
9
the late '90s.  And I believe that the FBI has his
10
medical records and you may see that on his medical
11
records.  Yes.
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  So you believe that he
13
started taking testosterone in the '90s, and when you
14
say that altered his behavior, you're saying it
15
wanted to --...

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that was the person he had the most massages, yoga,
2
and that -- with -- at that time in the '90s period.
3
           The second thing is that -- is he told me
4
he didn't -- he had difficulty having an erection,
5
and I believed him.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  When you said he said that,
7
you mean he regularly told you that?  Like he --
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  When I first --
9
because when I didn't have sex with him after the
10
first time, and it took -- so I asked him, was it me?
11
And he told me it was him.
12
           And I had never, up until this moment in
13
my life, I -- as if I'm not stupid.  I'm very bright.
14
I've had an excellent education.  I traveled all over
15
the world.  I had had boyfriends, but I had never met
16
or understood that somebody could be so -- would lie
17
to me about -- I could -- it never occurred to me.
18
           I didn't have a frame of context within my
19
life experience where somebody would be so
20
manipulative and devious with me.  I just -- and
21
plus, I just didn't have -- I just -- and I was happy
22
not to have sex, because I have a condition that
23
doesn't lend itself to that.
24
           TODD BLANCHE:  Does -- when you learned --
25
so fast forward just for a moment to the 2007, '08,
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'09 time period and he's arrested and charged and
2
there's all kinds of press around his purported
3
contact, at that point -- at that point, did you
4
accept that that was true?  Meaning, did it make
5
sense at that point?
6
           When you were reading about women who
7
claimed that they had been abused, even underage
8
and -- at that point, did you think to yourself,
9
well, geez, that makes sense now that I think about
10
it or no?
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  First of all, I
12
didn't -- that's -- I only read what was in the
13
newspapers.  I didn't have any other thing.  And I'm
14
embarrassed to say it, I didn't -- I didn't believe
1...

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have to --
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- hear my point of
4
view.  It's better if it comes from her own words and
5
that way there's no second-guessing whether -- what
6
I'm saying.
7
           
 herself said that 
8
recruited her, 
 brought her and 
9
trained her.  Those are 
 own words.
10
           Where was I going with this?
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  That you were -- that you
12
didn't know.  I mean, I assume you were saying that
13
you weren't --
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Oh yeah, sorry, sorry,
15
sorry, sorry.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  That's okay --
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm trying to remember
18
where I was.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- that's all right.  It's
20
okay.
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I really do have some
22
slow cognition issues.
23
           The --
24
           TODD BLANCHE:  So she says -- she
25
testifies that it was 
 that recruited her
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and trained her and not you.
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So wait.  So then in
3
her first FBI meeting, she reports seeing a woman
4
with short dark hair at the house, which then is used
5
as evidence that that person was myself.
6
           But the maid, lady that who helped keep
7
the house, John Alessi's wife -- oh, and with an
8
accent, I believe she said.
9
           John Alessi's wife had short, dark hair
10
and an accent.  I'm sorry, but I find -- and you can
11
ask yourselves this, I mean, I've obviously modified
12
my accent.  I've been in America a long time, but I'm
13
British.  I've been brought up with a very strong
14
British accent.
15
           And I don't believe there's an American on
16
planet Earth that doesn't recognize this to be
17
British or Australian, maybe, if you really don't
18
know.  But it's not some random accent.
19
           Now the Hispanic, maybe.  Okay.  That was
20
John's wife that she saw, not me.  And I'd like ...

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important caveats.  Well, on that -- but Julian --
2
Jane, in my trial, was clearly underage, clearly a
3
child.  And I only saw her in Palm Beach and I only
4
saw her with her mother.
5
           The other person who's clearly also not an
6
adult or even close, 
, I believe, I
7
remember her now.  That would be the only two or
8
three, whatever that is.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  So did you ever know
10
Mr. Epstein to communicate with FBI agents, either
11
like intelligence FBI agents, like as a source or
12
just generally with FBI agents?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.
14
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you think if he had done
15
that, you would've known, like he would've told you
16
something like that?  Like if I said to you,
17
Mr. Epstein was a source for the FBI, would you say,
18
that's crazy, no, he wasn't or maybe he was, I
19
would -- he wouldn't have told me that anyway.
20
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I have two answers for
21
that.  I think if he was for real, I think he
22
would've bragged about it to me as a show off,
23
because he could be a show off.  And if he wasn't, he
24
might have dropped it like he was cool.  And I don't
25
think -- I don't remember him doing either.
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           Now, with, again, the caveat that in
2
his -- before I met him finding money, I think he may
3
have suggested that there was some people who helped
4
him, but that's the only context that I recall that
5
in.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  What do you mean by that?
7
When you said "finding money," what do you mean?
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, his business
9
where he -- remember I told you --
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Uh-huh.
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- I think in that
12
context, he made -- he showed me a photograph that he
13
had with some African warlords or something that he
14
told me.  And, you know, I get -- I don't remember if
15
I -- that's what I interpreted the -- li...

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who's a famous journalist, actually is a very well
2
known journalist.
3
           And when I -- and he had -- he was friends
4
with the Barings, Barings Bank and he had like, sort
5
of --
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  That was, you're talking
7
about --
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Before he met me.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  Before, so in the --
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  '80s.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- '80s.  Okay.
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.  He was dating
13
Eva Andersson, Miss Sweden, I think.  I don't know
14
when she became Miss Sweden.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  So earlier when you
16
said that he met them later --
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
18
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- you think he may have
19
met some members of the Royal Family or certainly
20
British high society.
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He met -- I don't know
22
about the Royal Family, but certainly high society.
23
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
24
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And the reason why I
25
know this is because, sometime we can -- this is a
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documentable thing.  Docu -- whatever.  There's a
2
photograph that can give you the date, because I
3
don't remember what the date is of this, so there's
4
something that will peg whatever this date is.  I
5
don't remember when that is.
6
           Epstein went to London without me.  He
7
often went everywhere without me, but he was in
8
London without me, which was decently unusual because
9
London's my hometown.
10
           But anyway, he went without me.  And he
11
went to a big event in, I think it was in the --
12
anyway, it was a big event.  It's on -- it's on --
13
it's on -- it's on the news.  It's like a -- there's
14
photographs of it.  And he, I don't know if he sat
15
with Diana or he met Diana and he'd already met her.
16
I don't know, but this, I believe was organized by
17
Rosa.
18
           And so there's ...

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an exact date, but when, approximately, was that?
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, we can date it
3
from that picture, if you find me the picture.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  But do you know, I --
5
without looking at a photo, in your mind,
6
approximately, when was that.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I want to say it was
8
the 2000 -- no, probably 2001, 2002.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  Early 2000s?
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  And I think it was actually
12
Prince Andrew himself who suggested that he met
13
Jeffrey Epstein through you.
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I think that's true.
15
So -- well --
16
           LEAH SAFFIAN:  It's true that Andrew said
17
that.
18
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yeah, no, I'm sure
19
it's true, because I -- I'm English and my close
20
friends are all close friends with Sarah and Andrew.
21
And I would not say that I was close friends with
22
Andrew before, but certainly we were friendly and
23
certainly his best friends, some of them, are very
24
close with me.
25
           And I think that my friendship, my -- me
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being present or me is what made Andrew like Jeffrey
2
more, like, trust him or I think that's the idea.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  So you don't dispute that
4
you're -- that you kind of had a role in them getting
5
together.  You're just saying you didn't say, Prince,
6
here's Jeffrey.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I would never have
8
introduced them.  It would never have occurred to me
9
to introduce them.  I couldn't imagine them being
10
friends.  Two chalk and cheeses would never -- I
11
mean, for real, there's nothing there to connect
12
them.
13
           So he met Prince Andrew and then he had a
14
really good relationship.  I don't like that word.
15
It sounds clunky.  They had a friend --
16
           DAVID MARKUS:  Acquaintanceship.
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Thank you.  And ...

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that again?  Relationship is a big word.  Like I
2
said, I don't like the word.  Let's just start there.
3
Okay.
4
           So I have read -- I just want to like
5
piece together.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  Well, but don't say --
7
before you say what you read, because that's one of
8
the problems is that we're all kind of --
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  All right.  What, I
10
know --
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- we're all formed by like
12
all the publicity and information around what
13
everybody else has said, but like, what do you --
14
           DAVID MARKUS:  Know.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- what do you think or
16
what did you see?  What did you hear?
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  What's an even bigger
18
word than bullshit?
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Why?  Well, go ahead
20
just -- but finish that thought.  Why do you think
21
that?
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I'm going to tell you
23
right now.  I'm so happy to tell you.  I'm like
24
excited.  I'm beyond excited.
25
           Okay.  So there's been a mixture of what
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I've actually seen and know from the evidence and
2
versus what I've put together.  Impossible for me at
3
this point to separate everything, but I'll tell you
4
what I know versus what I saw and what I physically
5
have in here, but it's helpful for you to know.
6
           So the allegation, I have to go with the
7
allegation.  The allegation was that at my house in
8
London, in March, whatever that was, 2001 I believe,
9
we went to London, especially so that 
 could
10
have a -- or 
could have a relationship with
11
Prince Andrew and she was paid a vast amount of money
12
for that purpose.
13
           Okay.  And that she then got in the -- in
14
my bathroom in my house in London and had sex, sexual
15
relations with him and then went into my guest room
16
and had full blown sex and then left my house, or he
17
left, and she felt used and d...

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feet in total.  Well, maybe that; is that right?
2
Maybe nine --
3
           LEAH SAFFIAN:  Yes.
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  It is on three floors,
5
however.  So you're talking about a little -- it's a
6
jewel.  It used to be a stable for a horse.  It was
7
the stables for the big house.  It was a little poor
8
man's home behind the rich man's home.  It's a jewel.
9
           It's a -- was a gorgeous little place, but
10
it is the size of a nut.  If you make a noise, let's
11
say, a little burp or something you don't want to --
12
you'd hear it.  It just --
13
           Where she says that they had relations in
14
a bathroom, I -- first of all, the bath is an old
15
Victorian bath.  I could -- I'm quite -- quite small,
16
it's tight for me.  I put my brother in there to see
17
what would happen.  And it looks like a blivet, which
18
is a sausage in like a very tight skin.
19
           So her description of whatever the two
20
people were doing in the tub, that wouldn't work.
21
The bathroom itself is so small, you can't lie flat
22
on the floor.  So it couldn't happen on the floor,
23
because you physically, physically can't.  This
24
bathroom is too small to even be on the floor.
25
           And then the kicker of all kickers, is
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that because the bathroom was so small, I decorated
2
it to try make it look huge, which meant that I put
3
mirrors the whole way around it.  And what was so fun
4
about being in there is that if you stood in the
5
bathroom, you saw like a hundred of you, like you do
6
if you were in --
7
           DAVID MARKUS:  A fun house.
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yeah, well, Alice in
9
Wonderland or one of those things that you would see
10
yourself going, stretching everything.  And the
11
image.  If you said you were -- let's say you were,
12
let's say that 
 was telling the truth.
13
           She could say she was having sex with
14
5,000 generations of the Roya...

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only -- it's the only one that fit with the flight
2
logs, that when she could be in London and this took
3
place.
4
           The second thing is that -- oh, I'm so
5
excited to tell you this.  There is a journalist, I
6
know you guys are quite -- well, I don't know.  The
7
fake news is at work here.
8
           So there's a journalist called Sharon
9
Churcher.  There is a lawyer called Brad Edwards.
10
These two -- and there is a Southern District of
11
Florida prosecutor called Villafana.
12
           I would very much look forward to showing
13
you the relationship between these three parties that
14
created that story.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  Why?  Well, without --
16
putting aside the relationship, why do you think they
17
created that story?
18
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I believe that story
19
was created for the purposes of -- well, there are
20
multiple.  The first one is financial, the second one
21
is for the purposes of the CVRA case.  The third one
22
was for the serialization, both of her book and in
23
the papers, for the story to attack the Royal Family.
24
           And just as a --
25
           TODD BLANCHE:  So I think when -- when you
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were just asked about the photo, you said you
2
actually thought the photo was fake.
3
           Do you think it was just misdated or do
4
you think it's a fake -- literally a fake photo?
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I believe it's
6
literally a fake photo.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  Why do you think that?
8
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, first of all, I
9
don't remember it.  We'll start --
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  But you --
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Right.  Okay.  But the
12
outfit I'm wearing --
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- is the outfit from
15
my mum's birthday party.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  So but you don't have
17
any -- do you dispute that they've met each o...

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           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know -- so you don't
2
remember -- you didn't attend President Clinton's
3
daughter's wedding --
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I did.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  -- Chelsea Clinton's.
6
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Right.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  But that wasn't with
8
Mr. Epstein?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No, it was with
10
Ted Waitt, my boyfriend.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  Say it again.
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  With Ted Waitt, my
13
boyfriend.
14
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Do you know whether
15
Mr. Epstein was at that wedding?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He was not.
17
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  And how did you --
18
did you have a relationship -- well, why did you get
19
invited to that wedding?
20
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Because Ted and
21
Clinton were very close.
22
           TODD BLANCHE:  And why -- how were you
23
close to them?  Like what was the reason you were
24
close to them?
25
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I met President
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Clinton -- well, I first of all, I went to the
2
White House with Epstein once for, I think it was for
3
a historical, like one of those benefits and I met
4
the President then, but like a thousand other people
5
shook his hand.
6
           Then after that, I had a very -- a good
7
friend of mine that was the mayor -- known to be the
8
Mayor of Miami Beach, Philip Levine, and Philip and
9
the President were very good friends.  And Philip was
10
a very -- and I were very good friends, and so I
11
actually was introduced to the President post his
12
coming out of the White House and became friendly
13
with him, because of Philip Levine.
14
           DAVID MARKUS:  Because of what?
15
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Philip Levine.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  There's some names that
17
have been publicly associated with Mr. Epstein that I
18
just want to ask you if you know about:  P...

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Andrew Cuomo.  Yes.  Sorry.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Andrew Cuomo's wedding
4
in --
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  So when would that have
6
been, approximately?
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  1990.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  So before --
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  1999.  I don't -- I --
10
something like that.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  But would that have been
12
before you met Mr. Epstein?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Or maybe -- yes.
14
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you have a -- any sort
15
of professional or social relationship with John F.
16
Kennedy, Jr.?
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I fancied him.
18
           TODD BLANCHE:  You what?
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I thought he was very
20
attractive.
21
           TODD BLANCHE:  Oh, you fancied him.
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Sorry.
23
           TODD BLANCHE:  Besides him -- finding him
24
attractive and fancying him, did you have any sort
25
of, you know, social relationship with him?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I mean, we knew each
2
other.  I thought he was wonderful and fun and I
3
enjoyed meeting him, but I -- we went out -- I want
4
to say we had a dinner or two, but obviously I was
5
very excited, but that was it.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  And then Alan Dershowitz.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I -- what's the
8
question with Alan?
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you -- say that again.
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  What's the question?
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know Mr. Dershowitz?
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether he knew
14
Mr. Epstein?  Do you know the nature of their
15
relationship?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay.  I definitely do
17
know Alan.  I want -- I'm just trying to remember if
18
I knew him -- I am trying to remember how I met him.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
20...

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I'm nervous about the state of the ocean.
2
           When Ted and I, we worked with National
3
Geographic and we did exploratory work and the most
4
exciting -- we did many exciting things, but one of
5
the most fabulous ones that we did was we looked for
6
Amelia Earhart twice.  I did two expeditions to look
7
for Amelia Earhart, as an example of an -- of a
8
exploration that we did.
9
           And he had a foundation for the ocean and
10
we worked with Nat Geo, we worked with Woods Hole.
11
We did amazing things.
12
           We bought-- he bought the Remus 6000, so
13
when the plane went missing, the plane that went --
14
was it Air France?  From Brazil to Paris that went
15
down, it was the Remus 6000 that found that plane.
16
It's one of those deep sea explorers.
17
           Anyway, when I broke up with Ted, I
18
just -- one of the things I did not want to give up
19
was the -- my love of the ocean and everything that
20
we did and TerraMar, the genesis of TerraMar came
21
from that.  So TerraMar obviously means land, sea.
22
           And the story of the ocean is that earth
23
really shouldn't be called earth, it should be called
24
ocean because three quarters is the ocean.
25
           So -- and so I wanted to not clash with
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anything to do with Ted, because it was a bit awkward
2
between us and I -- so he took all the part of the
3
ocean that was close to land, so within 200 miles.
4
           And so I decided I would focus on all the
5
part of the ocean that was outside of national
6
borders, TerraMar.  And that's how that -- that's the
7
genesis of TerraMar.  Okay.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  So what was the time period
9
of that?
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  That -- I think after
11
I broke up with Ted, so 2010, '11 is when it started.
12
And then I ran it all the way up until whenever the
13
Epstein drama struck and then I just shut it down.
14
           Not -- I shut it d...

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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I wouldn't say --
2
first of all, I wouldn't say I had any type of
3
relationship with Harvey Weinstein --
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- in any context.
6
           Socially, I would meet him because I would
7
go to events that Harvey would be at and also his
8
wife was English back then, Georgina.  And I was, I
9
mean, friendly also, would be a big word, more
10
acquaintance.
11
           So we would see each other and I would go
12
to Miramax events, be -- there was a couple of people
13
who worked for Harvey who I was friendly with, his
14
primary producer whose name is Meryl Poster, who I
15
was friendly with, and yeah.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether
17
Mr. Epstein had his own relationship with
18
Mr. Weinstein?
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He did.
20
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did they socialize together
21
at the island or in Palm Beach, or in New Mexico?
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I never saw Harvey at
23
any of Epstein's houses.  So socialize -- I don't
24
know that they were friends.  I mean, I can't see
25
them together, either.  I mean, literally.
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           But I know that they certainly do that.  I
2
would imagine -- and in fact, I think I have a
3
memory, but I can't -- that when Harvey was trying to
4
raise money for whatever his business was called, I
5
can't remember what his business was called.
6
           Maybe he went there, because Epstein was
7
good at raising money.  I just don't know.  But I
8
never saw them.  I don't -- I don't recall seeing
9
Harvey in any of the properties.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Let's just go a few more
11
minutes and take a break, I know it's after lunch.
12
           So do you -- we talked several hours ago
13
about your father and his business a little bit.
14
           After your father passed, do you know
15
whether Mr. Epstein was involved i...

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Thursday, July 24th.  And the recording device is now
2
on.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  So when we stopped to take
4
a break, we were talking about what has been publicly
5
discussed as a black book or the Epstein list.  And
6
that's where we are.
7
           So you said you think you might know or
8
that you're aware of kind of the origin of this
9
narrative.
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Right.  I just want to
11
reiterate again, there is no list that I am aware of.
12
I've never, at any time, at least during the period
13
of time when I was --
14
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
15
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- present.
16
           The origin of this story, I believe,
17
begins -- or it has a beginning in 2009, and then it
18
has a prequel but we have to start in 2009.
19
           In 2009, there is -- Epstein is, I think,
20
out of jail, and there are civil suits taking place.
21
Many of these are coming out of a disgraced law firm,
22
Rothstein Adler -- Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler.
23
           At that law firm is a lawyer who started
24
there in April, May, 2009, called Brad Edwards.  In
25
2009, allegedly the FBI gets a call in October of
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2009 from Brad Edwards, and he allegedly tells them
2
that he has come across a piece of evidence that
3
belongs to Epstein, that contains a list of all of
4
his clients and victims, underage girls, massage
5
therapists, and his -- and the men who are having sex
6
with them.  And he becomes -- he, Brad Edwards
7
becomes a cooperating witness -- cooperating --
8
           LEAH SAFFIAN:  Confidential.
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- confidential
10
informant, sorry.  Confidential informant for them.
11
           And in a sting operation obtains the list
12
from a former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo
13
Rodriguez.  And it becomes evidence in the civil
14
suit.
15
           In the -- Alfredo Rodriguez is
16
subsequently prosecuted for hav...

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is evidence.  There it says that Brad Edwards was the
2
only lawyer that she was allowed to talk to.  So I
3
just want to preface that.
4
           The reason why I know that she went behind
5
Acosta's back, and everything else to do this, is
6
because Brad Edwards in a podcast made the
7
revelation.  What he says is that he'd never heard of
8
the CVRA case before, and Villafana called him and
9
told him to file it.  The sole purpose of the CVRA
10
was to overturn the non-prosecution agreement.
11
           So what I believe is that Villafana worked
12
with Brad Edwards, who she had also been -- he was
13
the lawyer that she had selected as a pro bono lawyer
14
for some of the victims.  And he was also working for
15
Rothstein's firm, that was under RICO investigation
16
for that entire time, creating fake evidence in
17
Epstein's case.
18
           And she had just filed hidden secret using
19
Edwards to overturn the NPA by filing the -- this
20
CVRA case, that sole purpose was to overturn it.  And
21
so when he approached her with the list, this was
22
part of the effort to utilize and find new evidence
23
to support the overturning, either of the NPA and/or
24
a new case against Epstein.
25
           Because Brad Edwards -- or I don't know it
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was Brad Edwards.  Because Rothstein's firm asked my
2
then boyfriend for $10 million, to kick me out of
3
suits that I had no knowledge of at that time
4
whatsoever, I now know that the base of this story
5
was a blackmail of a billionaire, because Ted Waitt
6
was a multi-billionaire.
7
           He had everything.  He was way, way more
8
wealthy than Epstein, if anyone cares.  And that is
9
the reason why Ted and I broke up, was the basis of
10
that.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  So --
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  And that list was
13
created -- so then the -- the masseuses that were on
14
that list, I have never heard of some of them.  I --
15
not ...

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marked up -- I don't know who.  Somebody marked up
2
that book of names, and I think all the names of the
3
people that they went for were originally selected
4
between two sources.  One was this alleged book of
5
names, and one was also from the telephone logs that
6
were collected from the house in Palm Beach.
7
           And just to finish it off, there is a
8
note -- I have some papers for you if you wanted
9
them, where Brad Edwards says that he has a list of
10
25 men that he got money off --
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  So -- okay.  So the list
12
that everybody, the black book, the list, what you're
13
saying is that your -- your Exhibit 52 from your
14
trial, which is like a -- more of an address book, a
15
Rolodex type thing, that Mr. Rodriguez -- Alfredo
16
Rodriguez, your understanding, is that somewhere
17
along the way he went through and kind of marked that
18
list to say --
19
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't know where
20
that book actually comes from.
21
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't know what that
23
book is.  That book is some type of a compilation,
24
but what it is, is it's just pieces of paper with
25
type.  So if you had -- you could have made a list.
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I could put --
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  But you're referring to
3
something that's been public for a long, if we're
4
thinking about the same thing.  You're talking about
5
the -- you're right, it's like a bunch of different
6
types of paper or whatever.  I only have a copy of
7
it, but with big parts of it redacted publicly,
8
because there was people's addresses and whatnot on
9
it.
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.  That's what I'm
11
talking about.
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So it -- oh, perfect.
14
Yes.  So you will find --
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  We're looking at Exhibit 52
16
now.
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Okay....

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birthday, say anything you want on a piece of paper.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  Okay.
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I mean, nothing more
4
than that.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Right.  I mean, it was an
6
obvious question.  But you basically -- his folks
7
were invited to send something to you to celebrate
8
his birthday.
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.  To say happy
10
birthday with like, have a wonderful day or something
11
else.  There was no -- there was no ask, but I wasn't
12
responsible for everybody in that book.  And there
13
were people that he would ask himself to contribute.
14
           TODD BLANCHE:  And do you remember some --
15
do you remember specific names of individuals who did
16
send letters or who did contribute?
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  It's been so long.  I
18
want to tell you, but I don't remember.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you --
20
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I honestly don't
21
remember.
22
           TODD BLANCHE:  The article talks about
23
several names, but including the folks -- the
24
article, which is on Donald Trump.  Do you remember
25
President Trump submitting a letter or a card or a
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note?
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you think the
4
articles -- well, do you remember seeing that book or
5
any portion of the letters in your discovery in
6
New York?
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  What do you remember
9
seeing?
10
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I remember there
11
was -- there were some portions of that book.  But
12
what surprised me -- yeah.  What surprised me was how
13
few there were, because I thought if you had those,
14
where are the rest?  There was none of Mr. Trump.
15
           TODD BLANCHE:  In your discovery?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Oh, in my discovery,
17
sorry.  President Trump, there was nothing from
18
President Trum...

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his -- I don't know if he was chief of staff or
2
whoever, Boris.  And I met him, I think, once.  I may
3
have met him actually at 71st Street.  I may have
4
once.  I don't remember if I met him there or at a
5
restaurant, I don't remember.  And that would've been
6
because of Epstein, because Epstein was friendly with
7
Boris and Boris -- that's all I remember.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether
9
Mr. Gates traveled with Mr. Epstein on his plane to
10
any of his houses?
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So if that -- that
12
friendship was after, you know, it was in the late
13
2000s.  So if I met him -- like I said, I went to
14
Epstein's house maybe once or twice.  Maybe I met him
15
there.  I don't remember.
16
           TODD BLANCHE:  So you don't --
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So I wouldn't know if
18
he had been on Epstein's plane.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  And you weren't -- you
20
don't recall ever being on the plane with him flying
21
to the island or to anywhere?
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.
23
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know somebody named
24
Reid Hoffman?
25
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I do.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Who's that?
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Reid is a Silicon
3
Valley guy.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  Is what?
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Silicon Valley.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  And how do you know him?
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Through my friends in
8
San Francisco.  I have a -- I used to have a very
9
close friend who is in San Francisco who's part of
10
that whole -- I have several, actually, or had.
11
           TODD BLANCHE:  So is that a relationship
12
you had kind of separate and apart from Mr. Epstein?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Separate.
14
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether
15
Mr. Epstein had a relationship with Reid Hoffman?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't know.
17
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that would add names to it?  Like if a masseuse came
2
and leaves and Mr. Epstein says yes, she was good,
3
would you be part -- like, how, how was the list kind
4
of maintained or who maintained it?
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Typically, no --
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  No.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  -- because there would
8
be an assistant who would do that.  Plus, Epstein
9
would not allow me to answer the telephone ever.  So
10
-- or maintain or keep any of his messages in the
11
office or at the house.
12
           So typically that wouldn't be, because I
13
wouldn't be the one.  Could I say to you I never did
14
it?  No, of course not.  Because that just seems
15
ludicrous.  But as a rule of thumb, the answer would
16
be no.
17
           TODD BLANCHE:  During the 2007, '08, '09,
18
investigation -- the investigation out of the
19
Southern District of Florida.  So you said that you
20
weren't contacted by law enforcement.
21
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I was not.
22
           TODD BLANCHE:  After Mr. Epstein was
23
charged, did you have conversations with him about
24
the investigation?
25
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He never talked to me
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about it.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did you --
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I mean, I can't --
4
let's put it this way.  If he did, I have no
5
recollection of it.  I mean, I'm sure he must have
6
said, this is all -- whatever he said or it's nothing
7
or whatever.
8
           I mean, I just don't have any -- I just
9
don't have any memory.  I mean, I just -- I was with
10
Ted.  My -- I was like gone.  I mean, plus I just
11
didn't want to know either, I suppose.
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  So you don't know,
13
firsthand, why the U.S. Attorney in Florida made the
14
deal that he did?  Meaning you weren't part of that
15
discussion along the way.
16
           Like Mr. Epstein didn't say, I'm getting a
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good deal or, you know, I --...

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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Not deliberately.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  And did you know --
3
we asked this -- we talked about this a little bit
4
earlier, but just to put a finer point on it.  Did
5
you ever know that Mr. -- did you ever -- were you
6
ever told -- did you ever think that Mr. Epstein was
7
getting any money from any intelligence agency,
8
including Mossad?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, I don't believe
10
so, but I wouldn't know.  I mean, I would be very
11
surprised if he did.  I don't think so.  No.
12
           TODD BLANCHE:  We've talked about a lot of
13
names and I'm sure we've -- there's some that we
14
haven't covered.  Are there any foreign nationals --
15
so right now we've talked about some British, the
16
Royal Family a little bit, and maybe high society
17
folks in Britain.
18
           Were there any international businessmen
19
or politicians that had a very close relationship or
20
a close relationship with Mr. Epstein, that we
21
haven't already talked about?
22
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Off the top of my,
23
head, I can think of Ehud Barak.
24
           TODD BLANCHE:  You said that Mr. Epstein
25
at some point in the mid to late '90s he started
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taking testosterone.  Did you ever know him to take
2
any other drugs?
3
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  No.  I mean, he took
4
pills for his heart, I think, but I don't -- no
5
other -- no substances.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  What -- do you know
7
anything about his heart condition?  I know we talked
8
about this at, you know, 9:45 this morning.  But do
9
you know anything about his heart condition, beyond
10
that you understood he had a heart condition that
11
affected his ability to have sex?
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Other than what he
13
told me, no.  He never shared anything, but he did
14
take pills.  I don't know what -- I don't know
15
anything above that.  And like I said, he did...

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           TODD BLANCHE:  Want to take a break?
2
           DAVID MARKUS:  Yeah, sure.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  We can take a break.
4
Yeah.  Sure.  Actually, it's a good time to take a
5
break anyway, because it's to be the last one of the
6
day.
7
            SPENCER HORN:  All right.  So we're going
8
to take a break at -- it's 2:53, Thursday, July 24th.
9
            (Off the record at 2:53 p.m.)
10
           SPENCER HORN:  We are continuing with the
11
recorded proffer of Ms. Maxwell.  The time is now
12
3:10 p.m., Thursday, July 24th.
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  My colleagues alerted me to
14
a couple questions I think I may have forgotten to
15
ask you.  One is -- sorry, I'm just going through my
16
notes.
17
           Well, we talked few minutes ago about this
18
birthday book that there's press about.  I understand
19
you don't remember anything with President Trump or a
20
lot about the book anyway.
21
           Do you remember asking President Trump to
22
submit a letter for that?
23
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I do not.
24
           TODD BLANCHE:  And do you remember --
25
would you have been the one to do that or could
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somebody else -- would somebody else have done that?
2
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I did ask some people.
3
I don't remember Mr. Trump.  I don't remember who I
4
did ask, but Epstein also asked people himself
5
directly.
6
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
7
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  So it could have
8
happened that way, if it happened at all.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  Where is that?
10
           DIEGO PESTANA:  You mentioned Ehud Barak.
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
12
           DIEGO PESTANA:  What was his involvement?
13
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  This would've been in
14
the later 2000's.  So I do not know how they met, but
15
I do know that they -- I don't know if friendly would
16
be the right word.  I don't know that, but I k...

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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Or there's that.
2
           TODD BLANCHE:  Did - someone named Mark
3
Middleton --
4
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes, I remember him.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  Who was that?
6
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  He was in the --
7
Mr. Clinton's administration -- President Clinton's
8
administration, I think.
9
           TODD BLANCHE:  And how do you -- do you
10
know him?
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Well, I met him and
12
that is -- I met him through Mr. Epstein.
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  And do you -- was he, from
14
what you observed, was he a friend or business
15
acquaintance of Mr. Epstein?
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I mean, I only saw him
17
a handful of times, but I did see him with him.  I
18
mean, he seemed friendly.  I don't know if I would
19
characterize -- I mean, only having seen him briefly,
20
I don't know how to characterize that.
21
           TODD BLANCHE:  Do you know whether he like
22
flew on airplanes with Mr. Epstein?  Did he visit the
23
island?  Do you know anything about that or their
24
relationship as it relates to that?
25
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I never -- I don't
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have any recollection of seeing Mark Middleton at the
2
island.
3
           TODD BLANCHE:  How about former US Senator
4
George Mitchell?
5
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yeah, I do remember
6
George.
7
           TODD BLANCHE:  What do you remember about
8
him?
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I traveled with him.
10
We went to -- the most memorable affair I went to --
11
well, I was friendly with his wife.  Start with that,
12
with Heather.  And Heather was in New York, so I hung
13
out with her a few times.  We had dinner and I was
14
just friendly, I would say separately with --
15
separately from her husband.  I was friends with
16
Heather.  I met Heather through her husband, but we
17
became friends.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  You became friends ...

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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Something like that, I
3
think.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  There's some more names
5
that we might talk about tomorrow with the same type
6
of questions, just -- but as far as a catchall,
7
there's been a tremendous amount of public
8
information about all kinds of names, including some
9
of the folks we talked about today and their
10
relationship with Mr. Epstein and or you.
11
           For any of the folks that we've talked
12
about today, did you observe them doing anything
13
improper with Mr. Epstein, whether with masseuses or
14
with women who were -- or girls who were traveling or
15
at the residence that they were at or at the parties
16
that they were at?
17
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I did not ever, at any
18
time, see that.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  And for any of the names
20
we've talked about today, and then tomorrow we'll
21
talk about some more, but for today, do you recall
22
having any conversations with anybody else, where
23
they reported to you that they had seen something
24
that one of these individuals had done, whether
25
someone else that works with Mr. Epstein or somebody
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that observed something?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  If anybody had ever
3
reported anything -- first of all, the answer to that
4
is no.  And also, I just want to be clear that had
5
anybody ever reported anything illegal or disgusting
6
like that, I would've immediately done something.
7
And I never heard it.  I never saw it.  And no one
8
ever, ever, ever complained to me or tears, nothing
9
like that.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  All right.  So we
11
took a break when we were talking about Mr. Epstein
12
and his death.  Oh, bless you.  That's okay.  Take
13
your time.
14
           So Mr. Epstein and his death.  So you were
15
not, obviously, at the MCC during that time, correct.
16
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Tha...

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           TODD BLANCHE:  Or the shortfallings or
2
shortcomings of the Bureau of Prisons.
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Yes.
4
           TODD BLANCHE:  Which is a little bit
5
different than my -- from my question is, which is,
6
do you think there was somebody on the outside of
7
prison, so putting aside, what could happen on the
8
inside on the outside of prison, who would -- who
9
wanted him dead so badly that he would've, or she
10
would've, you know, caused him to be killed on the
11
inside?
12
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I think that's -- I
13
don't see that.  I think, is it possible?  Of course
14
it's possible.  But I don't know of any reason why,
15
and I don't believe in the blackmail or in any of
16
this, I don't think Epstein had a hit on like that.
17
If it is indeed murder, I believe it was an internal
18
situation.
19
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  So you're not -- you
20
don't have any reason firsthand knowledge or even
21
speculation, it sounds like, to think that he was --
22
if -- that he was killed to kind of silence him or to
23
keep him from going public about people he knew
24
about?
25
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I don't, no, because I
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think that is just part of the story that's been
2
created that started back in 2008, '09.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.  Yeah, I mean, that's
4
the point.  Like, I don't want -- I don't think
5
there's value in talking -- you know, there's been a
6
lot of -- there's a lot of information about what
7
happened, you know, at the MCC and -- but what is
8
important to me is whether, you know, if -- is the
9
idea that he didn't die by suicide, that's one thing.
10
But if to the extent that folks believe that he was
11
murdered to keep him quiet or because he had
12
information on rich and powerful people, that's what
13
I -- do you have any reason to believe that that's
14
true?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  I do not have any
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That's a hundred percent true.  And the degree to
2
which that took place, I'm not -- I don't recall.
3
There was definitely some of that, though.  I don't
4
want to mislead you.
5
           TODD BLANCHE:  And we touched on this
6
earlier, but I just want to -- I don't think we
7
really ran it to ground maybe as much as we could
8
like.  Going up through that time, you know, so in
9
the '16, '17, '18, up until the time he's arrested,
10
had your view or your understanding of what had
11
happened changed?
12
           Meaning did you believe that in the late
13
'90s or early 2000s when he started, you know,
14
behaving much differently.  Did you believe what you
15
were hearing about him at that point?
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           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  My views, I didn't
17
like the people he was with anyway.  So I don't find
18
-- how do I say this?  I don't like -- I like people
19
who my age or older, and I don't find the society of,
20
or the companionship of younger people who are young
21
people, I suppose, is really that enjoyable.  So I
22
don't like the company that he chose to be with, and
23
so I just was -- I find it boring and fundamentally
24
uninteresting.  That's probably the nicest way I can
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say it.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  Okay.  So I think
2
what we should do is just spend a few minutes talking
3
about tomorrow.  Everything was great today.  I think
4
that we -- it was very helpful and I appreciate you
5
trying to be as complete as you can.
6
           I think tomorrow -- you've said a few
7
things today about materials that you brought.  When
8
we're done, we will give you a few minutes with Mr.
9
Markus to -- if there's things that you want to show
10
him that you think we should see.
11
           Like I said, I'm not asking you to
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corroborate anything.  If I was asking you to
13
corroborate something, I would tell you, but if
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of the president to harm him, that I find deeply
2
offensive.  And whilst I can't obviously say
3
definitively that that is what it is, I would like to
4
show you what I see so that you can evaluate it and
5
do with that as you see fit if it needs to be
6
addressed.  I've seen it, it struck me, and I would
7
like to give it to you.
8
           TODD BLANCHE:  Sure.
9
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  For what it's worth.
10
           TODD BLANCHE:  Okay.
11
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Does that seem
12
something that I can --
13
           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah, that's fine.  Yeah.
14
           GHISLAINE MAXWELL:  Of course.  I don't
15
like that.
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           TODD BLANCHE:  Yeah.  Okay.  That's fine.
17
That's great.  Okay, so why don't we stop for today.
18
I'll give you a little bit of time to chat and then,
19
see you in the morning.
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            SPENCER HORN:  This will conclude the
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recorded proffer interview for Thursday, July 24th.
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We will continue tomorrow, Friday, July 25th.  The
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time is 3:34.
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           (Interview concluded at 3:34 p.m.)
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