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UNITED STATES GRAND JURY 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK 
 
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 
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: August 23, 2018 Additional 
JEFFERY EPSTEIN 
(2018R01618) 
 
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APPEARANCE 
S: 
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Foley Square 
New York, New York 
June 18, 2019 
12:57 p.m. 
Assistant United States Attorney 
Assistant United States Attorney 
Assistant United States Attorney 
Acting Grand Jury RepoLt_eL 
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(Colloquy Precedes) 
(Witness Enters Room) 
(Time Noted: 1:08 p.m.) 
called as a witness, having been duly sworn by 
the Foreperson of the Grand Jury, was examined and 
testified as follows: 
BY MS. 
Q. 
Good afternoon Special Agent 
A. 
Good afternoon. 
Q. 
Could you please state and spell your full name 
for the record? 
A. 
Q. 
Where do you currently work? 
A. 
The FBI. 
Q. 
What is your title there? 
A. 
Special Agent. 
Q. 
How long have you worked as a special agent for 
the FBI? 
A. 
For over two years. 
Q. 
Where are you currently assigned? 
A. 
The Violent Crimes Against Children squad. 
Q. 
What are your duties and responsibilities as a 
special agent on that squad? 
A. 
I work child exploitation and human trafficking 
matters. We also work international and parental 
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kidnappings. 
Q. 
Have you participated in an investigation of 
Jeffrey Epstein and his associates? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Have you spoken with other people, including other 
law enforcement officers, about this investigation? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Have you reviewed reports and documents prepared 
by others regarding this case? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is your testimony today based in part 0± those 
conversations with other law enforcement officers and 
documents that you reviewed? 
A. 
Yes. 
MS. 
So ladies and gentlemen, some of the 
testimony that you're going to hear today will include 
hearsay. As you know, that means that the witness will not 
be testifying solely from her own observations, but that 
she'll also be reporting what others have told her and what 
she has read in reports and documents prepared by others. 
Hearsay evidence is admissible in these grand jury 
proceedings and you're free to rely on it in determining 
whether there is probable cause to indict any proposed 
defendants, if we end up returning to present a proposed 
indictment. 
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If, however, you would like to hear the testimony 
of any other witness, you have the right to request it and 
we will make reasonable efforts to bring that witness before 
you. 
BY MS. 
Q. 
So Special Agent 
I'm placing in front of 
you what's been marked as Grand Jury Exhibit 1. Do you 
recognize that? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What is that? 
A. 
It's a presentation that was prepared to assist in 
testifying today. 
Q. 
And did you participate in preparing that exhibit? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And would it assist you in testifying today? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. So we'll make that part of the record for 
today. Let me begin by just asking you a few questions 
about Jeffrey Epstein and what you've learned. 
Can you tell us, how old is Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
He is 66. 
Q. 
Based on open source reporting, what have you 
learned about Jeffrey Epstein's professional background? 
A. 
He's a wealthy individual that has a background as 
a money manager, background in finance, working in 
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investments. 
Q. 
Is that what's been published and you reported 
about him? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
During the course of your investigation, have you 
learned where Epstein maintains residences? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Where does he have residences? 
A. 
He has a residence here in Manhattan, along with 
Palm Beach, Virgin Islands and New Mexico. 
Q. 
Does he maintain an address in Manhattan located 
at 9 East 71st Street? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
If we could turn to slide 2. Does that fairly and 
accurately depict the residence? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Could you please describe that property for the 
Grand Jury? 
A. 
It's a multi-story residence. It's reportedly the 
largest residence in Manhattan. It's right near Central 
Park. 
Q. 
Does Epstein also maintain an address in Palm 
Beach, Florida, located at 358 El Brillo Way? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 3, does that fairly and 
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A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Could you please describe that property for the 
Grand Jury? 
A. 
It's a villa in Palm Beach, right on the water, 
has an in-ground pool along with a guest residence or 
apartment connected to it. 
Q. 
I want to turn now and talk to you about some of 
the witnesses you've interviewed during your investigation. 
During the course of this investigation have you 
participated in interviews with an individual named 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
For today's purposes I'm just going to refer to 
her as 
. About how many times have you interviewed 
A. 
We've spoken to her approximately five times. 
Q. 
Turning to the next slide. Are these photographs 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did she tell you approximately how old she was 
when both of these photographs were taken? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she tell you? 
A. 
The photo on the left she was approximately 13 
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years old, and the photo on the right she would have been 17 
years old. 
Q. 
What is 
date of birth? 
A. 
. 
Q• 
In addition to your participation in interviews 
with 
, have you also reviewed reports from other law 
enforcement officers who've interviewed 
? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And is your testimony today based on both your 
review of those reports and also your personal participation 
in interviews with 
? 
A. 
Yes. 
FOREPERSON: 
Can you speak up a little bit more? 
Okay, thanks. 
BY MS. 
Q. 
Okay. So based on your participation in this 
investigation, have you learned where 
was living when 
she was about 14 years old? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Where was she living? 
A. 
She was living in 
Q. 
Was she living with her parents? 
A. 
No, not at that time. 
Q. 
Why not? 
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She had a difficult home life. 
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Q. 
Was she going to school? 
A. 
She had started and dropped out. 
Q. 
About when did she drop out of school? 
A. 
The beginning of her freshman year, a few months 
into her freshman year, approximately. 
Q. 
And at about this time how was she supporting 
herself financially, in general? 
A. 
She worked different jobs. She worked in catering 
halls, as a waitress in restaurants and in clubs. 
Q. 
Did there come a time when 
learned about. 
Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How did that first happen? 
A. 
She met a girl named 
who told her that she 
could make money if she massaged this rich guy. 
Q. 
And when she heard that from 
, how did she 
respond? 
A. 
She wanted to make money, so she agreed. 
Q. 
What did she agree to do? 
A. 
She agreed to go to his residence and massage him. 
Q. 
Did 
recall about how old she was when she 
first went to his residence? 
A. 
She said she was approximately 14. 
Q. 
If 
was born in 1988, would she have been 14 
in the year 2002? 
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A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And just to confirm, the date of birth listed on 
this slide, is that 
date of birth? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So you testified that she ultimately went to his 
residence. Which residence was that? 
A. 
The one here in Manhattan. 
Q. 
About how many times did she go to Epstein's 
residence? 
A. 
Multiple times, dozens. 
Q. 
During the time she went to Epstein's residence in 
Manhattan, did she tell you about what typically would 
happen when she would go to his house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What are some of the things that she told you 
about what happened there? 
A. 
So the first time she went she went with 
And she entered the residence; they waited in the office 
until they were escorted upstairs to the massage room. Once 
in the massage room Jeffrey Epstein came into the room, he 
laid down on the table. 
Once he was on the table a girl massaged each 
side. And then 
would be asked to leave the room, 
would stay. From there, once he turned over he 
wanted his nipples pinched while he masturbated. Things 
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progressed each additional time she went. She would have to 
massage him while she was in her panties or without 
underwear on or any clothes on. And then eventually he 
would touch her. He touched her breasts, her genital area 
and then used a vibrator on her genital area. 
Q. 
Did 
tell you how much she was paid for each 
of these sessions? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How was she paid? 
A. 
$300. 
Q. 
Was she paid in cash? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did she remember anything in particular about the 
way he paid her in cash? 
A. 
She was paid in hundred dollar bills. 
Q. 
During your interviews with 
what was her 
demeanor like when she would describe to you how Epstein 
touched her during these sessions? 
A. 
She became more emotional. The more she had to 
talk about some of the worse things that happened to her she 
became upset about it. 
Q. 
You wee explaining earlier that 
said she 
was approximately 14 when this began. Did she tell you 
whether she ever had any conversations with Epstein about 
her age? 
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A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she tell you? 
A. 
She said that she told him she was 14. 
Q. 
Have you asked 
what Epstein's house was 
like? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How did she describe it to you? 
A. 
She gave a lot of detail about the house. She 
talked about the office having a round desk in it, she 
talked about the massage room had the massage table, it had 
lotions, it had moisturizers. On the walls there were 
sketches or paintings of naked females on them. And she 
also talked about a library in his residence that looked 
like it was something from out of Beauty and the Beast. 
Q. 
Is that how she described it to you? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So we've been talking about what you've learned 
during interviews with 
. Just to take a step back, 
how did you first establish contact with her? 
A. 
My partner and I located her at her residence. 
Q. 
her? 
What did she say to you when you first approached 
A. 
She was very nervous when we first talked to her. 
And she told us that she was 16, she went and massaged 
Epstein and he masturbated and he didn't touch her. 
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Q. 
And again, what was her demeanor like when she 
said this to you? 
A. 
She was very nervous. 
She was just very anxious while we 
were speaking with her. 
Q• 
Were you able to conduct a full interview of her 
at that time? 
A. 
No. 
Q• 
At a later point were you able to conduct full and 
thorough interviews with her? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And once you finally were able to interview her 
did you ask her why she said that when you first approached 
her? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she explain to you? 
A. 
She told us that she didn't even really remember 
what she had told us initially because she was so nervous, 
she was so worried. She was really concerned that if she 
talked to us she was going to go to jail, so she was really 
worried about being in trouble. 
Q. 
Did there come a point in time when Epstein asked 
to bring other girls to him? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What happened? 
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A. 
She did. She reached out to other girls that she 
knew to see their interest. 
Q. 
I want to ask you a little bit about what 
told you about her role in bringing other girls to Epstein. 
Let me first just ask, in general, how would she 
find new girls? 
A. 
She would meet them through friends of friends. 
She met them in clubs, different social settings. 
Q. 
In general, what kinds of things would she tell 
them about what to expect? 
A. 
She told them that they would have to give a 
massage either with their underwear on or nude; that he 
would want his nipples touched and that he would masturbate. 
Q. 
Would she tell them anything about payment? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What would she tell them? 
A. 
She'd tell them that they would get $300 for 
massaging him. 
Q. 
Did 
have a sense, in general, of the ages 
of the ages of the girls that she brought to Epstein? 
A. 
She estimated around approximately 13, 14-year 
olds to 17-year olds. They were mostly underage girls that 
she brought. She did bring a couple that were 18. 
Q. 
Approximately how long did she participate in 
bringing girls to Epstein? 
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Approximately three years of the three years :hat 
she went. 
Q. 
So approximately how old was she when this 
stopped? 
A. 
Seventeen. 
Q. 
During that time period, over those three years 
approximately, did she have a sense of about how many girls 
she brought over the years to Epstein's house? 
A. 
She estimated approximately 20 to 50 girls. 
Q. 
Did she work with anyone else in recruiting girls 
for Epstein? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Who did she work with? 
A. 
Another girl her age, 
(ph). 
Q. 
Who is 
A. 
She was a friend of 
's that was living with 
her at the time. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 5. Did 
provide you with 
this photograph? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And what did she explain to you about this 
photograph? 
A. 
That this is -- that that's 
on the left and 
that's 
on the right. They were approximately 16-
years old at that time the picture was taken. 
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Q• 
And during this time period, around the time when 
this photograph was taken when they were approximately 16, 
is that when they were working recruiting girls for Epstein? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
In general, when 
would find a girl, how 
would she go about bringing the girl to Epstein? 
A. 
She would call who she believed was his 
or she 
assumed was his assistant, a woman named 
Q. 
Why would she call? 
A. 
She would call 
and say, I have a girl who 
can work, and they would schedule that appointment. 
Q. 
In conversations with 
, is that how they 
refer to these massage sessions, as "work"? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Once the session was scheduled, would 
go 
with the girl to the house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What would she do, in general, once she brought 
the girl to the house? 
A. 
So the first time she would take a girl they would 
go to the residence, they'd wait in the office until they 
could be escorted upstairs. The first time she would go 
with a girl, she would go up with her so the girl felt 
comfortable and kind of knew what to do. Additional visits 
after that she would wait downstairs while the girl did the 
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Q. 
Did Epstein ever give feedback to 
about tr.,
girls that she was bringing? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Would he ever tell her that he particularly liked 
or didn't like a specific girl? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And would he ever tell her to bring a specific 
girl back or to not bring her back for other sessions? 
A. 
Yes. 
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Over time did she notice any patterns in the girls 
that Epstein seemed to like? 
A. 
She did. 
Q. 
What did she notice? 
A. 
That he liked young, petite, natural girls. 
Q. 
What did she mean by "natural girls"? 
A. 
That girls that were under 18, weren't completely 
developed. 
Q. 
Did she recall any particular expressions that 
Epstein would use to express his preferences when he was 
giving her feedback about girls that she had brought? 
A. 
I'm sorry. Say that again. 
Q. 
In your conversations with 
did she recall 
any particular expressions or phrases that Epstein would use 
when he was explaining what girls he did or didn't like? 
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A. 
Yeah. He would tell her, you know what I like. 
If she brought someone he didn't like he'd be like, come on, 
you know, you know what I like. 
Q. 
What was her understanding of what that meant? 
A. 
She understood that to mean girls who were under 
18. 
Q. 
Did 
tell you how much Epstein paid her for 
recruiting other girls? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And how much did he pay her? 
A. 
$300. 
Q. 
And was that for each new girl or for every 
session with the new girl when she brought her in? 
A. 
That was for each new girl and every session that 
she went with whatever girl. 
Q. 
We talked a little bit about phone calls between 
and 
, but I want to circle back and just talk 
about that in a little bit more detail. 
Can you explain for the Grand Jury, in general, 
how would 
schedule these sessions? 
A. 
She would schedule the sessions through 
would either contact her on her phone or she would 
reach out to 
and say she could work. 
Q. 
And just to be clear, did 
ever call 
A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
In sum and substance, what are some of the kinds 
of things that she would discuss on the phone with 
A. 
When she'd be available to massage him. They'd 
talk about what girls. 
would ask her, do you have a 
new girl, things along those lines. 
Q. 
Approximately how old was 
when she stopped 
going to Epstein's house? 
A. 
Around 17. 
Q. 
Did she explain to you why she stopped going? 
A. 
She said that the older she got she was having a 
more difficult time finding younger girls that he preferred. 
And at that time she also was working at a café. 
Q. 
All right. So I want to switch gears and talk 
about another witness that you've interviewed. Before I do, 
I just want to be clear. We've been talking about some of 
the things that 
has explained to you in your 
interviews. 
When you've been describing what she's told you, 
were those the exact words that she used in every interview 
or just the sum and substance of what she's relayed to you? 
A. 
Sum and substance. 
Q. 
During the course of this investigation have you 
participated in interviews with an individual named 
Yes. 
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Q. 
So for today's purposes I'm just going to refer to 
her as 
. Can you tell us, how many times have you 
interviewed 
A. 
Twice. 
Q. 
Have you also reviewed reports from previous law 
enforcement interviews with Courtney? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is your testimony today based both on your review 
of those reports and also your personal participation a-d 
interviews with 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. If we could turn to the next slide, slide 
6. Is this a photograph of 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Approximately how old was 
when this 
photograph was taken, if you know? 
A. 
Approximately 19. 
Q. 
What is 
's date of birth? 
A. 
Q. 
Based on your participation and interviews with 
, have you learned where she was living when she was 
about 14 or 15? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Where was she living? 
A. 
She was living with a friend of her, 
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Q. 
Was that in the West Palm Beach area in Florida? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
You mentioned that she was living with a friend. 
To be clear, was she living with her parents during that 
time? 
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No. 
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Why not? 
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She had a difficult home life. 
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Was she in school at that time? 
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She had started high school and dropped out. 
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Did there come a time when 
learned abou-
Jeffrey Epstein? 
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Yes. 
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How did she learn about Epstein? 
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She and 
were at a party together and another 
girl their age had approached them, telling them that they 
could make $200 to massage a rich guy in West Palm Beach. 
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How did she respond when she heard that? 
A. 
She agreed to do it. 
Q. 
Did she end up going to Epstein's residence in 
Palm Beach, Florida? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
About how many times did she go to the residence? 
A. 
Approximately 60 times. 
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When she first started going to the house, did she 
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ever go there with any of her friends? 
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Yes. 
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Who did she go there with? 
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She went with 
and other friends 
throughout the additional times. 
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Was 
approximately the same age as 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Did 
recall approximately how old she wa 
when she first went to Epstein's house? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Did she remember the exact age? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
What did she tell you about what she was able to 
remember about how old she was? 
A. 
She said she recalled it was the summer before her 
9th grade year, but that she could have been 14, 15. She 
was unsure. 
Q. 
In interviews previously, had she mentioned that 
it's possible she might have been 16? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
But was her most recent memory that she met him at 
approximately 14 or 15, but that she wasn't sure? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So if 
was born in 1987, would she have 
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been 14 or 15 in about the year 2002? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
All right. During the times that 
went to 
Epstein's residence in Palm Beach, did she explain to you 
what would typically happen when she went to Epstein's 
house? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
What did she describe to you about, in general, 
the kinds of things that would happen when she would go to 
his house? 
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So she explained that she would go to the 
residence, she'd be escorted upstairs. Sometimes it was 
with a friend. Each girl would massage a side of Epstein, 
one girl would leave. Things that happen in the room 
described that Epstein would want his nipples 
touched, he would masturbate and he would touch her. She 
said that usually the massages were done when she was only 
in her underwear. 
Q. 
Has she ever described Epstein using a vibrator or 
a sex toy? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
What did she describe? 
A. 
She said that he used a vibrator on her genital 
area. 
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During these massages would Epstein ever instruct 
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her to use lotions? 
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lis d? 
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Yes. 
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Did she identify what brand of lotions Epstein 
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Bath and Body Works. 
Q. 
You explained that when she would go to the house 
she would either go upstairs or be escorted upstairs. Can 
you explain for the Grand Jury, when she would arrive at the 
house was she ever greeted by anyone? 
A. 
She was usually greeted by Epstein's assistant, 
Q. 
And did 
ever escort her upstairs to the 
massage room? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did 
tell you what she was paid each time 
that she went to Epstein's house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she tell you? 
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She was paid $200. 
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How was she paid the $200? 
A. 
Hundred dollar bills. 
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Did there come a point in time when Epstein asked 
to bring other girls to him? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Did she agree to do that? 
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She did. 
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I want to ask you a little bit about 
's 
role in recruiting other girls to bring to Epstein. Can you 
explain for the Grand Jury, in general, how would she find 
new girls to bring to Epstein? 
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She found them at parties or in the neighborhood 
she was living at the time with 
She described it as 
a trailer park environment that she brought girls from. But 
some were school, when she was still there, and then jus 
parties. 
Q. 
In general, what kinds of things would she tel 
the girls about what to expect? 
A. 
Initially she told them that they were just going 
to give a massage and get paid. 
Q. 
And did she have a sense, in general, about the 
ranges of age of girls that she would bring to the house 
over time? 
A. 
Under 18. She did say she brought a couple that 
were over 18 and he wasn't happy about it. 
Q. 
I'm going to ask you a little bit more about that 
in a second. But just so we're clear, was her sense, in 
general, that of the girls she brought to the residence over 
time that most of them she thought were under 18? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Approximately how many girls did she estimate that 
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she had brought over the years, approximately? 
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Dozens. 
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In general, what would happen when she would bring 
the girl to Epstein? 
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She would go with the girl. They'd be escorted 
upstairs. The first time she went with a girl they would 
massage him together. Once Epstein flipped over to when he 
was laying on his back he would tell 
the other girl would stay and massage while 
downstairs. 
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Did Epstein ever give 
feedback on the 
girls that she had brought? 
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Yes. 
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to leave and 
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Would he ever tell her whether he liked or didn't 
like a specific girl? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Would he ever ask her to bring a certain girl back 
or to not bring another girl back? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Did she notice over time any patterns in the girls 
that Epstein seemed to like? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she notice? 
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That he liked young, young girls, young petite 
girls. 
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And did she notice whether he appeared to have any 
preferences in the race of the girls that she was bringing? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
What did she tell you? 
A. 
He did not like dark skinned or black girls. 
Q. 
Did she recall him using any particular 
expressions when he would convey his preferences to her? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What would he say? 
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He told her, you know what I like. 
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What was her understanding of what that meant? 
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She understood that to mean that he liked under 
18. 
Q. 
When 
first went to Epstein's house, did 
she tell Epstein that she was older than she really was? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Why did she tell him she was older than she really 
was? 
A. 
One of the girls told her to say that she was 
older than she was. 
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When she started recruiting girls, did she tel 
them to say that they were older? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Did there come a point in time when she stopped 
giving girls that instruction? 
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Yes. 
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Why did she stop doing that? 
A. 
She said because it didn't matter. He didn't care 
how old they were as long as they weren't over 18. 
Q. 
Why did she think he didn't care about whether the 
girls were over 18 or not? 
A. 
Because she said he had preferred under 18 and 
that's what he wanted her to bring. 
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Why did she think that that was what he preferred? 
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Because that's what he told her, you know what 
like. And she understood that to mean under 18. 
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Did 
tell you how much Epstein paid her 
for recruiting other girls? 
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Yes. 
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What did she tell you? 
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$200. 
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Was that for each new girl or for every time she 
brought in? 
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Every time she brought the girl. 
Q. 
And did 
explain to you how she would 
schedule these sessions with Epstein? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How did that work? 
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So she would be contacted by 
or she 
would call 
to schedule appointments. 
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was? 
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What was her understanding of who 
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She understood her to be his assistant. 
Q. 
In general, in sum and substance, what would they 
discuss on those phone calls? 
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She would tell 
what the girls looked like, 
she would tell them when they would be available. She'd 
also tell them when they wouldn't be available, based on 
their school or after curricular activities -- extra 
curricular. 
Q. 
During these calls how would 
refer to tne 
sessions that they were scheduling? 
A. 
As work. 
Q. 
Can you give us an example of how that would be 
used in a sentence? 
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That she would just say: Are you available to 
work, or, do you have a girl that's available to work. 
Q. 
During these phone calls about scheduling, did 
Sarah ever say where she was calling from? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
What did 
remember about that? 
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recalled 
saying that she was 
calling from New York and they'd be coming down to West Palm 
Beach. 
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Okay. Switching gears. Have you become aware 
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that in a separate investigation of Jeffrey Epstein, a 
witness said in about 2005 that she'd recruited minor 
victims for Epstein, but that that she'd also brought some 
girls who were over 18 and that Epstein told her, quote, 
"the younger the better." And that she also said, quote, 
"he likes the girls that are between the ages of 18 and 20"? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
All right. Switching topics. Have you become 
aware that in 2005 police officers from the Palm Beach 
Police Department executed a search warrant at Epstein's 
house at the El Brillo Way address in Palm Beach? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And have you reviewed some of the materials that 
were seized during the search? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did they find a massage table and sex toys? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did they find any phone messages? 
A. 
Yes. 
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Turning to slide 7. Could you please explain for 
the Grand Jury what we're looking at here? 
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This is a room in his Palm Beach residence. Down 
here on the close right corner you're going to see message 
pads. 
Q. 
So were those note pads for taking phone messages? 
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Yes. 
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And in the message pads was there just one message 
per page or were there four, laid out two on top and two on 
the bottom? 
A. 
There were four, two on top and two on the bottom. 
Q. 
The message pad that we're looking at in this 
photograph, was that the only set of messages that were 
recovered from the residence? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
All right. So let's talk a little bit about some 
of the phone messages that were found in the house. Let's 
turn to slide 8. 
Could you walk us through what we're looking at 
here? 
A. 
So this message is dated September 30th, 2004. 
's name is on it and in the message it says: She 
has a female for Mr. JE. 
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So given the date on this message, if this message 
had been left by 
, given her date of birth, 
would she have been about 16-years old when this message was 
left? 
here? 
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Yes. 
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Let's turn to slide 9. What are we looking at 
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This is a message that's dated November 8th, 2004. 
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is on the message and in the message it says: 
have a female for him. 
Q. 
Do you recognize this particular phone number? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Based on your review of law enforcement reports, 
has 
previously identified this as her phone 
number? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Based on the date on this particular phone message 
and 
's date of birth, would she have been about 
17 when this message was left? 
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Yes. 
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Let's turn to slide 10. So we've been looking at 
some of the excerpts of the phone message. Is this a full 
page of phone messages? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
And do they all have dates on them? 
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No. 
Q. 
Which one has a date on it? 
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Upper left-hand side. 
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And is that November 11th, 2004? 
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Yes. 
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So can you tell when these messages were 
approximately left? 
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Approximately, yes. 
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But beyond the fact that one of them is dated, 
you're not sure? 
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Correct. 
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Okay. Can you walk us through what we see here on 
this message pad? 
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So bottom right 
is listed. On the 
top right, 
(ph) is listed, and it states: Wondering 
if you want her to work tomorrow and what time. 
Q. 
So the message on the bottom marked 
doesn't have a date on it. But if these messages were left 
in approximately November of 2004, based on 
date of birth, would she have been about 17 when this 
message was left? 
A. 
Yes. 
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here? 
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All right. Turning to slide 11. What do we see 
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So this message was dated January 13th, 2005. 
is listed on the message, along with her phone 
number and it just states: Please call her. 
Q. 
Based on your review of law enforcement reports, 
has 
previously identified this phone number as 
being one of her phone numbers during that time period? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Based on the date on this message and 
's date of birth, would 
have been about 
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Yes. 
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Let's turn to slide 12. Can you tell us what 
we're looking at here? 
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This message is dated January 29th, 2005. 
's name is on this message along with her phone 
number, and in the message it says: I have a female for 
him. 
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Based on the date of this message and 
's date of birth, would she have been about 17 when this 
message was left? 
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Yes. 
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Let's turn to slide 13. This message is a bit 
more faint, so if you could just walk the Grand Jury through 
this message. 
A. 
So this message has 
listed on it along 
with her phone number. And in the message it says: She has 
a female friend for you, please call back as soon as 
possible. 
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Is there a date on this message? 
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No. 
Q. 
So earlier you were describing that in interviews 
with 
she explained that she was living with a 
friend named 
at the time she first encountered 
Epstein, is that right? 
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Yes. 
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And did she explain whether she ever went to 
Epstein's house with 
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She did. 
Q. 
And did you find in your review of the phone 
messages in Epstein's house, any messages left by a person 
named 
A. 
Yes. 
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Let's talk about a few of those messages. If yo.:
could turn to slide 14, please. What do we see here? 
A. 
This is a message in March of 2005. It lists 
on it. And in the message: She will be here at four 
but she needs talk to you before that. Please call her 
p.m. 
back. 
Q. 
Turing to slide 15. What do we see here? 
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This is a message dated September 8th of 2005. 
is listed on it along with her new phone number, • 
Q. 
Now, do you know one way or the other whether this 
specific message was left by 
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No. 
Q. 
Are you familiar with 
's date of 
birth? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And if this message had been left by 
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based on the date of the message and 
's date oL 
birth, would she have been about 17? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 16. What do we see here? 
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This message is dated March 18th of 2005. 
is listed on it along with a phone number and the message 
says: Please call her. 
Q. 
Again, same as before, do you know one way or the 
other whether this specific message was left by 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
But based on the date on this message and 
's date of birth, if it had been left by 
would she have been about 16 on that date? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 17. Does this appear to be 
another message left by someone named 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What's the text of the message? 
A. 
She can be tomorrow here from two p.m. to 
whenever. 
Q. 
What's the date on the message? 
A. 
Oh, sorry. 3-18-05. 
Q. 
Same as before, do you know one way or the other 
whether this was left 
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No. 
Q. 
Based on her date of birth and the date of this 
message, if she had left this message would she have been 
about 16? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And finally, turning to slide 18. This is a bit 
faint so if you could walk the Grand Jury through it? 
A. 
So this message has 
's name on it along with 
the phone number, and in the message it says: Has girl for 
tonight. 
Q. 
Is there a date on this message? 
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No. 
Q. 
In your review of these phone messages, did you 
find any other phone messages that appeared to fit this 
pattern of scheduling with girls? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. Let's talk about just a few of those. 
Let's turn to slide 19. What do we see here? 
A. 
This message is September of 2005. It has a woman 
named 
on it. In the message it says: Cancel 
she would like to speak to you, I believe, about college. 
Along with a phone number. 
Should I schedule anyone else? 
Q. 
And so the name 
, we'll talk about that a 
little bit in a few minutes. But just for present purposes, 
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have you become aware during this investigation that during 
this time period Jeffrey Epstein had an assistant named 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 20. What does this message say? 
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This is a message that has 
(ph) on it, and 
in the message it says: wants to work if you are in. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 21. What does this message say? 
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This message has 
on it and the message 
states: Is it okay if 
will come at five. 
Q. 
And finally, turning to slide 22. What does thi. 
message say? 
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This message has 
and 
(ph) on it. In 
the message it states: They are available all weekend and 
maybe 
too. And signed, 
(ph). 
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Have you interviewed a person named 
during 
this investigation? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Do you know whether or not that's the same 
listed on this message? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
In a minute I want to ask you about your 
interviews of 
. But before I do that I just want to 
ask you a few more questions about 
Did there come a point in time, in approximately 
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learned that Epstein was being 
investigated by State authorities for his conduct with 
minors? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How did she learn that? 
A. 
She had seen it, that there was an investigation 
into him. And then she had reached out to 
and 
told her that if she didn't talk she'd be taken care 
of. 
Q. 
And were those the exact words used or just th• 
sum and substance of that conversation? 
A. 
Sum and substance. 
Q. 
And do you remember, as we sit here today, whether 
she said that she called 
her? 
or whether 
called 
A. 
I don't recall the specifics, but there was a 
telephone communication. 
Q. 
And finally, when you met with 
what was 
her demeanor like when she discussed her role in recruiting 
minors for Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
I'm sorry. Can you say it again? 
Q. 
When you would talk with 
about her role 
in recruiting minors for Jeffrey Epstein, what was her 
demeanor like? 
A. 
She became very emotional when she talked about 
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that, very upset about her role in bringing other girls to 
him. 
Q. 
Finally I want to talk to you about one last 
witness that you've interviewed. During the course of this 
investigation, have you participated in interviews with an 
individual named 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
For today's purposes I'm just going to refer to 
her as 
. Can you tell us, how many times have you 
interviewed 
A. 
Twice. 
Q. 
Have you also reviewed reports from previous law 
enforcement interviews with 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is your testimony today based on both your review 
of those reports and also your own interviews with 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Let's turn to slide 23. Are these photographs of 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did she tell you about how old she was when these 
photographs were taken? 
A. 
She said that she was approximately 16 or 17 years 
old when these photos were taken. 
Q. 
What is her date of birth? 
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And have you learned where she was living when she 
was about 17-years old? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Where was she living? 
A. 
In West Palm Beach area. 
Q. 
Was she in school at the time? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did there come a point in time when 
about Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
How did that happen? 
A. 
One of her friends told her about a girl -- I'm 
sorry. Someone told her about being able to make money to 
massage a rich guy in West Palm Beach, and she agreed to do 
that. 
learned 
Q. 
Did she ultimately end up going to Epstein's 
residence in Palm Beach, Florida? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Approximately how many times? 
A. 
Multiple times. 
Q. 
Approximately how old was she when she first went 
to Epstein's house? 
A. 
Approximately 16 or 17 years old. 
Q. 
During the times that she went there, did she 
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explain to you what would typically happen when she went to 
Epstein's house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What are some of the things that she has described 
to you that occurred while she was at the residence? 
A. 
She talked about having to massage him without her 
clothes on, in just her panties or nude. She talked about 
having to play with his nipples while he masturbated and 
that he touched her breasts, her genital area and used a 
vibrator on her genital area. 
Q. 
Generally speaking, where would this occur? 
A. 
In the massage room at the West Palm Beach 
residence. 
Q. 
During these massages, did Epstein ever instruct 
her to use lotions? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What kind of lotions? 
A. 
Bath and Body Works. 
Q. 
what has she told you about any payment she 
received for these sessions? 
A. 
She said she received $200. 
Q. 
How was she paid? 
A. 
Hundred dollar bills. 
Q. 
Who would pay her? 
A. 
Epstein or 
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Q. 
We'll talk a little bit more about 
in a 
moment. But let me ask for now, what, if anything, did she 
say to you about a conversation she had with Epstein about 
her age? 
A. 
She said that she told him she was under 18 and he 
made comments to her that if she was 18 he's help her with 
her modeling career or when she became 18 he could help her. 
He told her that if she was 18 he would've taken her to 
party. 
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When you met with 
, what was her demeanor 
like when she discussed what happened with Epstein during 
these sessions? 
A. 
She became upset when she went into further detail 
about what occurred. 
Q. 
When you say she was "upset," can you just explain 
for us a little bit what it was like talking to her about 
those experiences? 
A. 
It was emotional. I mean, there were tears, there 
were some tears. 
Q. 
Were there some details she wasn't as comfortable 
talking about? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Has 
told you that she's gone through 
psychological treatment, in part to cope with her 
experiences with Epstein? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
Has she ever been hospitalized relating to those 
issues? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What was she hospitalized for? 
A. 
Self harm, cutting herself. 
Q. 
I want to switch gears and talk about a few 
records relating to 
. If we could turn to slide 24. 
What's depicted on this slide? 
A. 
So this is a calendar page. This was taken from 
her senior year school planner. And on this page you can 
see she wrote in, Jeffrey, up here on the 9th, and then 
Jeffrey's listed on the 29th. 
Q. 
Just to give some context. Are these the pages 
from October 2004 from her senior year school planner? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And are there listed some of her activities and 
events throughout that month? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
In October 2004, would 
have been 17? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Let's talk just a little bit about the two areas 
that you flagged in the circles. So looking at the top 
right red circle that's underneath and to the right of the 
entry that says, new school. Is Jeffrey written on that 
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Yes. 
Q. 
And at the bottom, the circle there that's just 
under the entry for homecoming game. Is there an entry for: 
Jeffrey comes back? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Have you talked with 
about what she would 
typically do with the money that she was paid --
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
-- when she went to go to Epstein's house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Just as a reminder, can you explain for us what 
she's told you about how she was paid? 
A. 
She said she was paid in hundred dollar bills. 
Q. 
And who would pay her? 
A. 
Epstein or 
Q. 
What would she do with that money? 
A. 
She'd deposit it in her bank, bank account. 
Q. 
Was her memory that she generally did that or that 
she did that absolutely every time that she went there? 
A. 
That she generally did it. 
Q. 
And has she provided you with copies of records 
from her bank account during that time period? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
All right. Turning to the next slide. Sorry. 
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Before we move on to slide 25. Here on slide 24. The red 
circles that are here, are those that you've added to aid 
the Grand Jury in spotting those two locations or did 
circle those in her planner? 
A. 
No, those were added. 
Q. 
So turning to slide 25. You've testified that 
provided you with some of her bank records. What are 
we looking at on this slide? 
A. 
So this is an October 2004 deposit and in it she 
deposited two hundred dollar bills and a twenty. 
Q. 
If this deposit happened on October 12th, 2004, 
would 
have been 17? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Turning to slide 26. Is this another deposit slip 
and this one on November 9th, 2004? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is this another deposit slip that 
provided 
you? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
What, if anything, did you notice about this 
deposit slip? 
A. 
It's two -- she deposited $200. 
Q. 
Does the deposit slip note what kind of bills she 
deposited? 
A. 
Hundreds. 
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Based on the date of this deposit, would 
have been 17 when this happened? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did 
explain to you, in general, how these 
sessions with Epstein were scheduled? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she explain to you about how that worked? 
A. 
That she spoke on the phone with 
, who 
would schedule her to work. 
was? 
Q. 
What was her understanding of who 
A. 
His assistant. 
Q. 
In general, what kinds of things would they 
discuss on the phone call? 
A. 
They'd talk about when she was available, or 
would tell her, you know, that she was coming down 
that they were coming down to West Palm Beach. 
Q. 
And did 
ever tell her where she was calling 
from? 
York. 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did 
A. 
She recalled 
remember about that? 
to 
saying she was calling from New 
Q. 
And when she remembered 
saying she was 
calling from New York, what was the context in which 
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would explain, in general, in sum and substance why she was 
calling from New York? 
A. 
She was telling 
that they would be arriving 
in West Palm Beach on a certain date and to ask her when 
she's available. 
Q. 
In these phone conversations with 
, what kind 
of terminology did 
typically use to refer to these 
sessions? 
A. 
She referred to it as "work." 
Q. 
Did 
remember having scheduling calls with 
anyone except for 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did she remember getting calls from anyone else? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she remember? 
A. 
She remembered getting calls from 
Q. 
What was her understanding of who 
was? 
A. 
That she was another assistant of his. 
Q. 
And in sum and substance, what would she talk 
about on the phone with 
A. 
Same things that she talked with 
scheduling. 
Q. 
Does 
still have the cell phone she had as a 
teenager during this time period? 
A. 
Yes. 
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And what kind of phone is it? 
A. 
It's a flip-phone. 
Q. 
Has she shown that phone to you when you've met 
with her? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is there a contact stored in that phone for a 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And a phone number stored for that contact? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
All right. I'm going to talk to you a little bit 
about that specific phone number. 
Turning to the next slide, to slide 27. What's on 
this slide? 
A. 
So this shows who was financially responsible for 
this phone number, which is Jeffrey Epstein, and it shows the 
user as 
associated with this phone number. 
Q. 
Are these subscriber records for the phone number, 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is that the phone number that's stored in the flip 
phone that you just described that Dainya has? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So in these subscriber records, are these records 
maintained by the phone company for that phone number? 
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Yes. 
Q. 
In the top two sections, do those sections explain 
who's responsible for the account in terms of billing and 
paying for the account? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And is Jeffrey Epstein and a Manhattan address 
listed in both places? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
At the bottom section, under user information, is 
there information about the particular phone number and the 
user of that phone number? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So, is the user listed for the 
phone 
number listed as 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And is it listed at the Manhattan address? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Have you reviewed phone records for 
's phone 
number during the time period we've been talking about . 
A. 
Yes. 
Q• 
I'm going to talk to you a little bit about some of 
those records. If you could turn to slide 28. 
Is this an excerpt from the phone records for 
• s cell phone? 
A. 
Yes. 
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On this slide there's an arrow next to the excerpt 
and a highlighted portion. Could you just walk the Grand 
Jury through that particular line on the record? 
A. 
That was a call that was made on January 3rd at 
1:06 p.m. It's 
• s number. 
Q. 
So that's a record of those two phones talking to 
each other on that date and time? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So if this call was between those two phones, on 
January 3rd, 2004 (sic), I want to talk about the very next 
day, January 4th, 2005. If you could turn to slide 29. 
So the day after that phone call we've just 
discussed, has 
provided you with a deposit slip for 
January 4th, 2005? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And did she deposit cash that day? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
About how much? 
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She deposited about 150, one one-hundred dollar 
bill, two twenties and a ten. 
Q. 
So just so we're clear on the timeline. On January 
3rd, 2005, 
and 
's phone numbers were 
talking to each other and the very next day 
deposited cash? 
A. 
Yes. 
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All right. Turning to slide 30. Is this an 
excerpt from the phone records for 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
's cell phone? 
Focusing on about halfway down, the highlighted 
line, are those records of calls on September 16th, 2004? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And what does this record reflect? 
A. 
That a call was made at around 2:08 p.m. on 
September 16th between 
and 
Q. 
So sticking with this same day, September 16th, 
2004, let me ask: Have you reviewed flight records from 
Jeffrey Epstein's private jet? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And do those records log flights that he took on 
his private jet? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And do those records also include flight manifests 
that show what individuals were on that flight? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So turning to slide 31. What is the record 
excerpted here? 
A. 
So this shows that there was a departure on 
September 16th from JFK to West Palm Beach and it lists all 
the individuals that were on that flight. 
Q. 
And just to take a step back for context. Can you 
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in this record, what kind of a log this is? 
A. 
So this is a flight log. It shows the dates that 
he's flown out, his aircraft has flown out, and shows from 
location and to the arrival destination. 
Q. 
Turning to the field on the far left and going down 
to the part where we've put an arrow, does that reflect a 
flight on September 16th, 2004? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Do you recognize the airport codes to the right of 
that that reflect the point of departure and arrival? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So what is this particular flight? 
A. 
So this is JFK in New York. PBI is West Palm 
Beach. 
Q. 
In addition to this log of different flights, have 
you also looked at the particular flight manifest for the 
September 16th, 2004 flight we've been talking about? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Turning to page 32. Is this the passenger manifest 
we've been talking about? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is this the passenger manifest for the September 
16th, 2004 flight we've just talked about? 
A. 
About halfway down to the area where there's a 
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presentation? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Is 
listed as a passenger on a flight 
on September 16th, 2004? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What are the listed times and departure and arrival 
locations for this flight? 
A. 
So they departed at 8:05 p.m. and arrived in Went 
Palm at 10:16 p.m. 
Q. 
Just so we have the timeline straight. If we could 
back to slide 30. I believe you testified earlier that the 
phone call highlighted here is on September 16, 2004 at 2:00 
o'clock, is that correct? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
So if this call occurred at 2:00 o'clock on tha. 
day, would that have been about six hours before that flight 
took off from JFK? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
And in your conversations with 
, did she ever 
tell you that Epstein asked her to bring girls for him? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she tell you about that? 
A. 
She said that he asked her if she had friends to 
bring. 
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And how did she respond? 
A. 
She took two girls. 
Q. 
When you say "she took two girls," did she bring 
girls to Epstein's house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Were those girls minors? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
If you could give me just one moment. 
Special Agent 
have you told the Grand Jury 
everything that you know about this case or have you just 
answered the questions that I've asked? 
A. 
I've answered the questions you've asked. 
Q. 
When you testified about the documents that you 
reviewed or the conversations that you had with others, were 
you testifying to the exact words used or just the substance 
of the documents or those conversations? 
A. 
Just to the substance. 
Q. 
And are you willing to return to the Grand Jury if 
the Grand Jury has any further questions for you? 
A. 
Yes. 
MS. 
Okay. With the Foreperson's permission 
I'd ask that the witness be excused. 
FOREPERSON. 
You're excused. 
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